Vote #! Best Linux Distribution!

mahatman2 · 2012-04-20 15:30:49

Lifehacker has a vote going on here for the best linux distribution. I figured you guys might want to know so you can vote for #! (or whatever, but I'll post this on other distros for them tongue )

Anyway, just fyi.

TitanMech · 2012-04-22 15:55:31

Thanks for this, i wasnt going to vote becuase that would mean having to create an account with yet another site, then i remembered something from xeNULL's blog

http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/

rhowaldt · 2012-04-22 15:57:11

http://lifehacker.com/5904069/five-best … tributions

Honorable mentions this week go out to OpenSUSE and CrunchBang Linux, both of which were highly recommended by their fans for their feature set and their passionate user and developer communities, but fell just short of the nominations to get into the top five.

yes!! that counts as success!

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-05-23 12:04:57

I could only vote for a distro that had excellent wifi support - something like linux Mint - without access to the internet your system is rubbish. I couldnt access the internet with crunchbang

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 12:09:36

^ Troll?

You only tried one possible solution which is kinda lazy of you, maybe if you spent some time using google, or performed a more in depth search of these forums you could get your wireless to work.

2Karl · 2012-05-23 12:35:44

ChickenPie4Tea wrote:

I could only vote for a distro that had excellent wifi support - something like linux Mint - without access to the internet your system is rubbish. I couldnt access the internet with crunchbang

Yeah I couldn't get Mint to make me a cup of coffee, so it's rubbish.

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 12:41:23

Yeah I couldn't get Mint to make me a cup of coffee, so it's rubbish.

That reminds me of the time i asked Kubuntu to play WoW for me in wine, so i could spend some more time with my gf............... Kubuntu refused mad

I kept thinking to myself, can linux do anything???

2Karl · 2012-05-23 12:51:33

And trying to get it to replace the head gasket on my car, you managed to find a way to get Linux to do that? Good for nothing piece of garbage, seriously.

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 12:56:38

I haven't even managed to get Linux to change a damn light bulb, so there's no chance of any complex combustion engine antics tongue

2Karl · 2012-05-23 13:04:17

On a serious note though, I'm not a huge fan of these "which distro is best" votes, simply becasue each distro is aimed at different users with different needs. I don't think it's really possible to say which distro is "best", any more than it's possible to say which car is "best". Sure, some might be more robust than others, some might be more welcoming to new users, but others might be more suited to a specific role (as a server, or a media centre for example). In the same way some cars may be great for transporting a family across country, but rubbish in a drag race.

Like the whole "user friendliness" debate (see elsewhere for another car analogy), declaring any one distro as "best" without clear criteria as to the purpose of said distro, is pure folly.

gutterslob · 2012-05-23 13:14:44

TitanMech wrote:

Thanks for this, i wasnt going to vote becuase that would mean having to create an account with yet another site, then i remembered something from xeNULL's blog
http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/

That's so passe. Use this instead.

http://www.snazzyspace.com/stripper-name-generator.php

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 13:15:33

On a serious note though, I'm not a huge fan of these "which distro is best" votes

They dont make sense to me, simply because they rarely take into account the type of user.

When i used ubuntu i never dreamed of using anything else, because ubuntu ticked all the boxes, when it no longer did i distro hopped.

I do think that user-friendliness is important though, if it wasn't for ubuntu's user-friendliness back in the good old days i wouldnt have stuck around long enough to like it, and then later on feel the need to learn more.

Right now i have a friend who is a massive apple fan, i convinced him to try both Ubuntu precise and Kubuntu precise and see which he preferred. He likes KDE more, and was interested in learning more about the command line and such, but only after he has had more of a play with linux in VBox.
I hope he is going to take the same journey most of us did which is at first love the user-friendliness of a distro like ubuntu then discover that there's more linux than ubuntu and that should his needs change he can be brave enough to go explore.

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 13:17:34

gutterslob wrote:

TitanMech wrote:
Thanks for this, i wasnt going to vote becuase that would mean having to create an account with yet another site, then i remembered something from xeNULL's blog
http://www.fakenamegenerator.com/
That's so passe. Use this instead.
http://www.snazzyspace.com/stripper-name-generator.php

hahaha my stripper name is: Princess Glitzbrook
Im gonna have to ask the mods for perms to make a second account here with that name!!!

gutterslob · 2012-05-23 13:19:36

This one's more fun, tbh.
http://rumandmonkey.com/widgets/toys/namegen/3386/

Vote for your favourite online stripper name generator. Now that's a poll!!

On topic: I refuse to vote in any distro poll that doesn't include Slobwarez as an option.

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2Karl · 2012-05-23 13:20:32

TitanMech wrote:

I do think that user-friendliness is important though, if it wasn't for ubuntu's user-friendliness back in the good old days i wouldnt have stuck around long enough to like it, and then later on feel the need to learn more.

Again, be careful using the term "user-friendliness" as a catch-all term. I won't reopen that whole can of worms here as it's discussed at length in the WM thread, but remember that as there is not one single type of user, there is not one single type of user-friendliness. (as a brief example, I don't like menus as they get in the way of my productivity when I can issue commands to a terminal faster than I can select them in a menu - ergo menu systems are not "friendly" to me. However, a user who is not familiar with terminal commands or is unaware of the software available on the system may appreciate the inclusion of a menu - ergo menu systems are "friendly" to them).

User Task, User Experience, User Ability. They differ wildly between different users, which means that appropriate interfaces also differ wildly.

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 13:29:09

Vote for your favourite online stripper name generator. Now that's a poll!!

We should have a poll titled "Who has the best stripper name"
The winner gets a free pack of stickers from the shop.

Papanominal has a great stripper name : Lola Cherryhorn
Using the second link you gave me Philips name is: Sex Machine Thunder

Im not gonna post the name i got from the second link tongue

@ 2Karl
I should have clarified, i meant most people these days who give linux a try are from the windows xp and upwards bunch, there wasnt any need for myself or others to use the command line on xp and windows 7 because it was a glorified games console with a poor word processor for some lite work.

So when i say user-friendliness i actually mean "oh wow, it has menus a little like windows, an easy place to install software, and none of the command line stuff i was so scared about" - and that really was the naive attitude i came to Linux with, and im sure many others did to

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machinebacon · 2012-05-23 13:33:59

^ Titan, it's possible to change the *first* username tongue

2Karl · 2012-05-23 13:35:13

TitanMech wrote:

So when i say user-friendliness i actually mean "oh wow, it has menus a little like windows, an easy place to install software, and none of the command line stuff i was so scared about" - and that really was the naive attitude i came to Linux with, and im sure many others did to

Oh I know, don't get me wrong, your meaning was clear, I was merely highlighting the fact that "user-friendly" does not simply mean "Friendly to windows users" or even "easy to use for non-technical users".

http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm has a very good summary, read Problem #5.

TitanMech · 2012-05-23 13:45:58

^ Titan, it's possible to change the *first* username tongue

I know, rhowaldt told me after 500 posts you can get a name change.

And im unsure as to whether i should change it to my stripper name, the mods mite be mean and not allow me to change it back tongue

@ 2Karl
Thanks for the link, i do see your point, and understand it. I guess when i define user friendliness i like to ignore your point, not out of rudeness, but because that answer is for the windows users coming to linux and is the answer they want to hear. And it is usually quite possible to determine what platform a user has come from when joining these forums and linux in general based on the types of questions and the way they ask them, and from being around here and the ubuntu forums for a while, the vast majority of new users are ex-windows people, and not from the generation of things like the comodore.

Im going to put your link in my sig though, i enjoyed reading part 5, and will of course read the rest now.

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2Karl · 2012-05-23 13:48:33

at the very least, say "friendly to windows users" rather than "user friendly".

It's the teacher in me, I can't help correcting factual inaccuracies and misconceptions wherever I see them. And it's why I'm such a grammar nazi.

Actually scratch that last one, I've been a grammar nazi since I could write.

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johnraff · 2012-05-23 16:47:12

Personally I found that "Linux is not Windows" rant quite objectionable when I followed the link in someone's signature years ago. The attitude comes over completely RTFM. However, the guy seemed to have a reasonable definition of user-friendly after all:

that rant wrote:

"user friendly" software means "Software that can be used to a reasonable level of competence by a user with no previous experience of the software."

I think that's what most people round here mean by it?

PS other comment on the article. I left one too at the time, but it seems to have got lost somewhere. ( I don't think it was so vitriolic as to require deletion. roll )

ChickenPie4Tea · 2012-05-23 17:41:28

TitanMech wrote:

^ Troll?
You only tried one possible solution which is kinda lazy of you, maybe if you spent some time using google, or performed a more in depth search of these forums you could get your wireless to work.

I read loads of posts and tried more than one solution - in the end the advice i was given was to try a different version of Crunchbang- in outher words un-install and install another version. I preferred to go back to a system I knew worked.
I couldn't vote for an operating system that couldn't connect to the internet - I have tried also 2 other Distros and they also sucked when it came to wifi - I think the Distros that work well must be in a minority. If as much time was spent gettng great Wifi support as is spent on fancy graphics or cool looks I guess the problem would have been sorted by now.

machinebacon · 2012-05-23 17:51:35

^ Wut? Was this the change of Ubuntu-based #! to Debian-based #! ? Definitely not since we have been having Statler/Waldorf. And if you mean installing a kernel or backports - this doesn't require a re-install. Heck, there are people who still run on a sidux base...

C'mon, post your lspci, i want to see that piece of hardware that doesn't connect in Debian/Linux. Honestly.

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2Karl · 2012-05-23 18:08:45

johnraff wrote:

Personally I found that "Linux is not Windows" rant quite objectionable when I followed the link in someone's signature years ago. The attitude comes over completely RTFM. However, the guy seemed to have a reasonable definition of user-friendly after all:
that rant wrote:
"user friendly" software means "Software that can be used to a reasonable level of competence by a user with no previous experience of the software."
I think that's what most people round here mean by it?

Yes, but the point is that it's a misleading term when context is not applied.

VastOne · 2012-05-23 18:21:55

^ The same could be said of anything here or anywhere..

I am pretty sure no wars will be won or lost due to a user-friendly drone attack.. roll

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