[Solved]Problem with Iceweasel.

Mehow · 2012-05-21 00:38:43

Hi, installed crunchbang about a week ago, and it's great... Except one thing, hence the thread.

Sites such as Youtube, Facebook and the Mozilla site is very laggy.
In Chromium they work great, but not in Iceweasel, which is the browser i prefer.

When i've googled the problem all the answers seem to be that the flash player in Linux isn't that good.
But it works so much better in Chromium, so i thought i might be able to get it to run just as good in Ice.

Any tips or suggestions?
Thank you.

Last edited by Mehow (2012-05-21 12:16:25)

VastOne · 2012-05-21 00:59:20

^ Run Iceweasel and go to youtube or a laggy site and do what ever it takes to make it laggy..

Then open a terminal and run

top

and post the results of that back here...

Also, Welcome to CrunchBang and our little Community!

Mehow · 2012-05-21 01:21:47

Thanks for the welcome (:

results

mehow@Crunchbang:~$ top

top - 03:19:43 up  1:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.43, 0.33, 0.36
Tasks: 138 total,   3 running, 135 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s): 22.1%us,  2.8%sy,  0.0%ni, 73.7%id,  1.1%wa,  0.2%hi,  0.1%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   3093876k total,  1900776k used,  1193100k free,    50392k buffers
Swap:  6040568k total,        0k used,  6040568k free,  1288144k cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND                       
18267 mehow     20   0 1035m 199m  23m R   63  6.6  16:41.94 plugin-containe               
17449 mehow     20   0  842m 159m  32m S    6  5.3  12:00.82 firefox-bin                   
 1557 root      20   0  154m  70m  23m S    4  2.3  11:21.64 Xorg                          
 1818 mehow     20   0  274m 3936 2984 S    2  0.1   0:42.83 conky                         
 8692 mehow     20   0 19068 1280  916 R    2  0.0   0:00.01 top                           
    1 root      20   0  8356  788  656 S    0  0.0   0:00.59 init                          
    2 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 kthreadd                      
    3 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.02 migration/0                   
    4 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.15 ksoftirqd/0                   
    5 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/0                    
    6 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.02 migration/1                   
    7 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.16 ksoftirqd/1                   
    8 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/1                    
    9 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.03 migration/2                   
   10 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.56 ksoftirqd/2                   
   11 root      RT   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 watchdog/2                    
   12 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.05 events/0                      
   13 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.06 events/1                      
   14 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.15 events/2                      
   15 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 cpuset                        
   16 root      20   0     0    0    0 S    0  0.0   0:00.00 khelper

Edit: The CPU goes up to about 85 when loading a Youtube video on plugin-containe.

Last edited by Mehow (2012-05-21 01:31:04)

machinebacon · 2012-05-21 02:56:37

Hello and welcome!

Many users have complained a high CPU usage in IW/FF which again came from a higher CPU usage in Xxorg (or vice versa)

How laggy is it when you watch a video file from your hard drive, for example in VLC?

Can you post your

lspci | grep VGA

or tell us which hardware you run? Maybe it's the VGA adapters driver that is faulty here.

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-21 05:01:51

Hm, that with Youtube and the crazy plugin container is familiar to me.

machinebacon · 2012-05-21 05:11:03

^ ivanov, maybe you can help me fixing something - I have a slow IW when I visit pages like http://zorin-os.com/index.html

Can you visit the page and get the 'intro' load and run smooth? My browser nearly crashes here.

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-21 06:05:46

^ It runs perfectly with Aurora here. No glitches at all.

smoki · 2012-05-21 06:15:33

Yep smooth here also with ESR.

Ivane, a ovako nešto na primer - kod mene uvek na 100% CPU.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3408749026/.fonts.zip

Do not download that it is random, just open up and see your CPU usage.

Also do you have fast and smooth zooming on those pictures:

http://www.gimp.org/screenshots/

Last edited by smoki (2012-05-21 06:18:45)

machinebacon · 2012-05-21 06:19:54

ivanovnegro wrote:

^ It runs perfectly with Aurora here. No glitches at all.

Ok, thanks. Then it's quite surely nouveau effing around.

@smoki: zoom is laggy. I have kept nouveau on Waldorf on purpose, usually I download the blob. Now I definitely know: nVidia GeForce6150 + nouveau = sh1t.

Last edited by machinebacon (2012-05-21 06:23:07)

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-21 06:28:48

@smoki: Rapidshare kod mene samo na 14% CPU i tamo na Gimp-u sve smooth as butter.

el_koraco · 2012-05-21 06:37:01

smoki wrote:

Ivane, a ovako nešto na primer - kod mene uvek na 100% CPU.
https://rapidshare.com/files/3408749026/.fonts.zip

Used to be the same for me with AMD's graphics. With Intel, Firefox doesn't break a sweat.

smoki · 2012-05-21 06:45:11

Zoom is accelration architecture thingy on radeon (EXA is not perfect), but on that page on rapidshare CPU is on very low with chrome/ium.

Koja grafička/drajver?

@machinebacon

Thanks, nouveau and radeon both use that not averywhere accelerated EXA. XAA and UMS was a way better for those features.

Last edited by smoki (2012-05-21 06:52:39)

smoki · 2012-05-21 07:36:05

Don't know what is slowing that page on rapidshare, i block nearly every element with add-block and it stil use all CPU power:rolleyes:.

@el_koraco

intel with sna? uxa, glamor? To me, intel also seems to be just playable smile with switching all those achitectures.

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-21 07:43:42

smoki wrote:

Koja grafička/drajver?

Intel integrated, nothing special. big_smile

smoki · 2012-05-21 07:48:52

It is special on linux, that xintel big_smile

oh, you are on aurora - must try that...

and openbox is updated today on testing, must try that first big_smile

Last edited by smoki (2012-05-21 07:57:41)

el_koraco · 2012-05-21 08:15:11

smoki wrote:

intel with sna?

SNA, yes.

smoki · 2012-05-21 08:24:56

Thanks.

Zooming on gimp site is way better for me with aurora. Rapidshare is the same.

Good to know that slowness is not always because of graphic drivers smile .

Last edited by smoki (2012-05-21 08:26:34)

Mehow · 2012-05-21 10:20:00

machinebacon wrote:

Hello and welcome!

Thank you!

How laggy is it when you watch a video file from your hard drive, for example in VLC?

It's not laggy at all. In fact, everything runs great outside of Iceweasel. The CPU goes up to about 20 when watching a 1080p video in VLC. The problem is specific for sites like Youtube and the mozilla site in Iceweasel.

Can you post your
lspci | grep VGA
or tell us which hardware you run? Maybe it's the VGA adapters driver that is faulty here.

Sure thing.

02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 9800 GTX] (rev a2)

I've also followed a tutorial here for installing nvidia drivers, can't find it now, didn't change anything.

Last edited by Mehow (2012-05-21 10:26:30)

el_koraco · 2012-05-21 10:40:05

And what version of IW are you running?

apt-cache policy iceweasel xulrunner

Mehow · 2012-05-21 11:06:22

el_koraco wrote:

And what version of IW are you running?

mehow@Crunchbang:~$ apt-cache policy iceweasel xulrunner
iceweasel:
  Installed: 11.0-1~bpo60+1
  Candidate: 11.0-1~bpo60+1
  Version table:
 *** 11.0-1~bpo60+1 0
        100 http://packages.crunchbang.org/statler-mozilla/ squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     10.0.4esr-2~bpo60+1 0
        100 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main amd64 Packages
     3.5.16-15 0
        500 http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main amd64 Packages
     3.5.16-14 0
        500 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
xulrunner:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:

So the 11.0-1 version.

el_koraco · 2012-05-21 11:42:28

Find your language, download, unpack, and run FIrefox from the folder. See if anything improves.

Mehow · 2012-05-21 12:09:57

el_koraco wrote:

Find your language, download, unpack, and run FIrefox from the folder. See if anything improves.

Ok, i tried this. But got an error message saying "Failed to execute child process "/home/mehow/downloads/firefox/firefox" (No such file or directory)."

Also, when downloading the Linux version i got an .exe to launch firefox, that shouldn't be there right?

Last edited by Mehow (2012-05-21 12:10:15)

el_koraco · 2012-05-21 12:11:30

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla … ux-x86_64/
lol, I ditn't link you. Try here.

Mehow · 2012-05-21 12:15:30

el_koraco wrote:

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla … ux-x86_64/
lol, I ditn't link you. Try here.

YAY! It's working much better.
Thank you el_koraco and everybody else for helping big_smile

el_koraco · 2012-05-21 12:18:45

Now, keep the unpacked folder in your home directory. Add this to your .bashrc:

export PATH="$HOME/firefox:$PATH"

You'll be able to start Firefox by typing the command "firefox" - you can use it in your menu. Firefox will autoupdate. In case you want to make it the default browser, run

sudo  update-alternatives --install  /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /home/mehow/firefox/firefox 100

Last edited by el_koraco (2012-05-21 12:20:48)

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