Text-mode in a GUI world?

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-16 14:38:14

^ Haha, no rant that I noticed. I also do some things the "hard" way: *Office or LaTeX, for example? smile Good post, despite the caffeine smile

el_koraco · 2012-05-16 14:42:11

greyproc wrote:

I've become dependent on Google Reader,

20 percent CPU just to look at a picture or two? Hell no.

el_koraco · 2012-05-16 14:43:23

greyproc wrote:

I've become dependent on Google Reader,

20 percent CPU just to look at a picture or two? Hell no.
@SW: slrn does do RSS feeds, but the setup procedure (and usage, really) is so Emacsy, by the time you get to actually reading feeds...

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-16 14:47:11

el_koraco wrote:

greyproc wrote:
I've become dependent on Google Reader,
20 percent CPU just to look at a picture or two? Hell no.

Google Reader continues to use 20% of your CPU during the time the image is displayed? Sounds like a more serious problem somewhere. I have Iceweasel with 12 tabs open and usage is fluctuating, but is certainly nowhere near an average of 20%. Besides, I have the browser open anyway. How else can I sync the articles I've seen from various RSS feeds across multiple machines, other than running something like newsbeuter on a server which I ssh into?

Having said that, if there is a viable text-mode alternative to Google Reader, I'd be interested to test it smile

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SabreWolfy · 2012-05-16 14:52:33

@el_koraco: You use newsbeuter for RSS feeds IIRC?

el_koraco · 2012-05-16 15:04:18

SabreWolfy wrote:

How else can I sync the articles I've seen from various RSS feeds across multiple machines, other than running something like newsbeuter on a server which I ssh into?

You could put the .newsbeuter (or any feed reader) directory in a Dropbox folder and symlink it to $HOME. But if Google Reader works for you, just stick with it.

mahatman2 · 2012-05-16 16:28:12

The newest version of newsbeuter can sync directly with Google Reader. See here. smile

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-16 17:40:38

^ Thanks for the reminder. I saw that, but didn't have time to read the details. It looks like an awesome feature though. Here is the entry in the newsbeuter manual.

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ivanovnegro · 2012-05-16 19:34:18

I use both, CLI and GUI, though GUI is just web, office and Thunar. Rest is for the cool CLI apps @TransEren suggested already. Music, file operations, movies, torrent, unpacking, and now also Youtube, all from the CLI. For Youtube, someone mentioned it: https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer

greyproc · 2012-05-16 20:30:23

Newsbeuter looks neat...

Google Reader doesn't use much of my cpu, and since I've already got the browser open... eh. It's a testament to laziness. I'm not a big fan of using the mouse, but it's pretty optimal to use the scroll wheel to scroll down and read the posts; most of the feeds I follow put all their content in the rss, so I don't have to open other pages, and they're all marked read as I scroll. wink

Ivanovnegro: I mentioned youtube, but what I'm looking for is something a bit different. I actually tend to view my youtube downloads on my Windows 7 system; it drives my left hand monitor, and about the only thing I've found Windows is consistently able to do somewhat competently is play movies/media files, so that's all I use it for. *grins* I have many channels I'm subscribed to, and I use theyoke to spit out a text file with the new videos in my subscriptions, which I then pipe through youtube-dl, giving me a directory of videos (which is shared to the W7 system... readonly... because W7 tends to be so happy when you let it access your files that it insists on modifying the metadata...). What I've not found, and have no idea of how to easily set up (I'm thinking of a python learning experience for myself...) is a way to segregate the videos so when I download, I don't have to sort the stuff I download low quality and the stuff I download as high quality. (Ex: low quality = Pajamamedia/Youngturks/TheOnion, high quality = that dude wailing out the Doctor Who theme (from the 'neat stuff around the internet' thread)...)

That actually begs the question... el koraco: How _do_ you view images in your rss feeds? Or do you not subscribe to anything where images would be worthwhile/added value?

dkeg · 2012-05-16 20:35:10

one thing I noticed is some are saying ''well I do this b/c my browser is already opened'

isn't the terminal always opened as well?

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-16 20:47:49

@greyproc: Google Reader supports keyboard shortcuts. [n]ext, [p]revious, [o]pen, [m]ark as read.

el_koraco · 2012-05-16 21:19:57

greyproc wrote:

That actually begs the question... el koraco: How _do_ you view images in your rss feeds? Or do you not subscribe to anything where images would be worthwhile/added value?

I have like four feeds, I've only just started big_smile

machinebacon · 2012-05-17 00:52:09

@images in newsbeuter: there are macros (call them with the 'comma' key) which can open images or websites in external viewers

OTOH, the fun about terminal is to have *no* images showing up smile

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-17 06:55:37

newsbeuter can launch the link of an article from an RSS feed too, but the benefit of an integration solution like Google Reader as that all the information you require is just there immediately -- you don't have to go into the entry, see there is a link, hit a key and have the link open back in Iceweasel or in elinks, read it, close it and be back in newsbeuter. I'm sure that works for some people, but I just want to get through some feeds quickly, I don't want to fiddle around with all that.

kbmonkey · 2012-05-17 22:02:59

@wolfy
Can I join the legion of CLI fanaticals? big_smile

I stopped deciding which is better, it's like comparing planets vs bubbles.

GUI is unmatched for absorbing graphical information, while CLI is boss for Textual information.

We wouldn't mind GUI's so much, if every site did not *have* their own unmatched styles. we'd be happy if all sites styled well with your DE theme -- which is why the #! site works so well!

Perhaps a non-tabbed browser, w/o toolbars and a style override could appease the voices. hmmm yes, this idea...

I sure as pecan-pie would love a curses based gmail client

mahatman2 · 2012-05-18 01:21:49

kbmonkey wrote:

Perhaps a non-tabbed browser, w/o toolbars and a style override could appease the voices. hmmm yes, this idea...

I think you call that uzbl smile (though I myself use luakit, which has tabs)

kbmonkey wrote:

I sure as pecan-pie would love a curses based gmail client

I think all the curses-based mail clients work with gmail. Gmail has really good IMAP support. I use mutt myself, with it (though I've tried sup and alpine as well).

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-18 06:53:49

Yeah, I'm planning to try out GMail/IMAP with mutt as soon as I get a little time to play.

ForkTong · 2012-05-18 14:46:10

- I read/compose emails with alpine. Why? Keyboard only, works on a small screen (1/4 of my screen), starts fast.

Gmail runs really slow on my netbook, takes up a full screen, and requires lots of clicking. I know you can enable shortcut keys for all that, but they interfere with me wanting to start typing in a webpage and immediately start searching.

- I keep track of everything I do for work with hnb. Why? Keyboard only, small part of screen, starts fast, no bells and whistles so I can focus on typing, quickly enter new tasks/things I did, and basically getting things done.

I tried out a couple of GUI notebooks/agendas/lists and they all offer way too much for what I wanted to do. And it was a hassle to do it with keyboard only, and they also require fullscreen windows or otherwise, you'd lose overview and buttons.

- I listen to music with mpd+ncmpcpp because again, it doesn't have to take up an entire screen to show a lot, keyboard controlled, quick.

On my netbook, I look for CLI solutions first because of all these things: keyboard, screenspace, speed.

- I like the keyboard for sending commands because it goes lightning fast and my hands are on they keyboard anyway. I don't like mice, and I don't like trackpads because I have to move my hand away from the keyboard and aim for the right thing to click. I think the only thing mice are good for, is for playing games (and graphics stuff). Even in Windows I use lots of keyboard shortcuts (still gotta talk to the Win7 team about those).

- My netbook resolution is 1024x640 or something weird like that. With CLI, I can tile 4 terminals on that screen and with most of the things running in CLI, I still can see everything I want to with the apps mentioned above in just one look.

- Speed needs no defense/proof.

+ It makes everything clearer and cleaner for me. Text in neatly tiled up tiles. Not window over window with buttons and borders and other cr*p that is just hiding or "prettyfying" the essence of what you wanted to do.

Sure, the internet is no longer text-browser-friendly, but lots of other daily tasks are. After comparing, and if the CLI alternative is actually good, CLI will have my preference.

gutterslob · 2012-05-18 14:57:32

ForkTong wrote:

On my netbook, I look for CLI solutions first because;
Touchpads are supercalifragilisticexpialidociously CRAP!! The person who invented the touchpad should be thrown off a cliff, picked up, and thrown off again for good measure!!

There. Fixed it for ya. smile

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-19 15:14:59

@forktong: Thanks. Interesting post.

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