Waldorf development images ready for testing

user1 · 2012-05-11 04:06:44

machinebacon wrote:

user1 wrote:
Why not SRware Iron?
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … it-a-dupe/

I read through the thread and the biased article that corenominal linked to and just want to clarify a few things. No, Iron does not include EXTRA privacy compared to Chromium or Chrome, but it does NOT include privacy-COMPROMISING features present in Chrome (not Chromium). The Wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron) clearly states this. With that aside, I want to reassert that my recommendation of Iron for CrunchBang is based on STABILITY reasons. Chromium is an ongoing, bleeding-edge project with ongoing, bleeding-edge builds; there are not any true stable snapshot releases. This fact seems to make Chromium a poor fit for CrunchBang's goal of being super-stable. Iron, on the other hand, does release frozen snapshots. This means that you are less likely to experience breakage with Iron than you are with Chromium, even though they are otherwise identical. On top of that, Iron does not include the data-mining that Chrome (not Chromium) does. I see it thus:

Chromium Chrome Iron
Stable? No Yes Yes
Private? Yes No Yes

Which seems to make Iron the winner. I can't deny that their website is "amateurish" to say the last, but Iron does have the approval of Puppy Linux (a RAM-loading distro I carry on flash drive in case I need to use a public terminal) and the court-sanctioned http://BrowserChoice.eu/, which helps to validate it at least a little.

BTW I'm not an Iron dev or anything. I found this username on bugmenot.com, it didn't work, so I registered it and now it should for anyone else that should look for a bugmenot for this forum...

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VastOne · 2012-05-11 04:08:49

^ I am suspecting this as more of advertisement than a discussion

user1 · 2012-05-11 04:10:53

Sorry I just realized that I do come off that way. I'm a normal user, I just don't like registering for forums.

corenominal · 2012-05-11 06:57:12

user1 wrote:

Chromium is an ongoing, bleeding-edge project with ongoing, bleeding-edge builds; there are not any true stable snapshot releases. This fact seems to make Chromium a poor fit for CrunchBang's goal of being super-stable. Iron, on the other hand, does release frozen snapshots. This means that you are less likely to experience breakage with Iron than you are with Chromium,

I am entirely unconvinced. Besides, you appear to be overlooking the fact that Chromium is packaged by Debian developers and is available via the Debian repositories -- the Debian repositories have to be some of the most impressive collections of software snapshots available anywhere.

el_koraco · 2012-05-11 07:28:48

http://chromium.hybridsource.org/the-iron-scam

Just one of the links.

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-11 18:55:46

Chromium on Debian Stable and therefore on #! Statler, the actual stable release, changes rareley, it stays in fact forever on the same version, just recieves security fixes, so it is stable as the Pope's chair. smile Whereas Chrome changes regularly if installed from Googles official site.

machinebacon · 2012-05-11 22:13:32

^ Re: Stuhl des Papstes

vZHBtMg

Did you mean: "Stuhlgang"?

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ivanovnegro · 2012-05-11 22:23:15

^ big_smile . No. I meant where he/she sits but let us avoid religious talks before I get banned.

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machinebacon · 2012-05-11 22:38:35

^ tongue That's where the discussion about "default browser" leads every time.

The idea of having the browser-pipe-menu is excellent, no matter which defaults are chosen.

ivanovnegro · 2012-05-11 22:44:04

machinebacon wrote:

^ That's where the discussion about "default browser" leads every time.

lol

brainspoil · 2012-05-11 23:24:18

zacharias wrote:

brainspoil wrote:
INstalled and running smooth on Lenovo Y560
is dat a hybrid graphics laptop?

lspci |grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series]

Peace9r · 2012-05-12 18:57:37

Thanks corenominal

Downloaded, installed and typing this from Waldorf.

Great work once again!

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-12 20:46:48

^ Fresh install or did you overwrite Statler and keep your /home?

VastOne · 2012-05-12 20:51:52

I just did one Sabre as you described, overwrote one using my current /home... I also loaded Xfce 4.10 from Unstable and am impressed with everything so far.. no issues

Did you have a question about it?

Sector11 · 2012-05-12 21:13:22

ivanovnegro wrote:

^ . No. I meant where he/she sits but let us avoid religious talks before I get banned.

That, is what my old man use to call: The King's Library.

No disrespect meant, Your Highness, whoever, where ever you may be, just stating a fact.

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SabreWolfy · 2012-05-13 00:45:21

VastOne wrote:

I just did one Sabre as you described, overwrote one using my current /home... I also loaded Xfce 4.10 from Unstable and am impressed with everything so far.. no issues
Did you have a question about it?

I'm happy with Statler (November 2011 release), but really want to try Waldorf, so I wanted to install it and keep my /home partition. Sounds like that works without any problems.

Sector11 · 2012-05-13 02:27:40

I couldn't resist the temptation and went hog wild ... I had #! Statler up on testing so I'm not new to that.

1. I backed up my /home and /media/5
2. I installed Waldorf - wiping all partitions and starting over changing:
- - ext3 to ext4
- - changed the sized of partitions to better suit my needs

- -

- - sda1 - / - #! waldorf that I use daily - mounts /media/5 and /media/8
- - sda2 - /home - I have set up my way - what you see in screen shots. (restored my /home)
- - sda5 - /media/5 - where I keep everything, videoss, music, images, etc. etc. (restored)
- - sda6 - / - waldorf - out of the box
- - sda7 - /home - waldorf - out of the box - only extras: claws-mail and iceweasel
- - sda8 - /media/8 - presently empty

Everything running smooth as silk!
I keep "sda7" up to date.

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SabreWolfy · 2012-05-13 11:26:08

^ Did you copy /media/5 back to /home after installation?

el_koraco · 2012-05-13 11:45:50

Sector11 wrote:

- - sda1 - / - #! waldorf that I use daily - mounts /media/5 and /media/8
- - sda2 - /home - I have set up my way - what you see in screen shots. (restored my /home)
- - sda5 - /media/5 - where I keep everything, videoss, music, images, etc. etc. (restored)
- - sda6 - / - waldorf - out of the box
- - sda7 - /home - waldorf - out of the box - only extras: claws-mail and iceweasel
- - sda8 - /media/8 - presently empty

Good, now read the LVM guide in my sig and reinstall again with LVM. big_smile
You'll find that managing your partitions is a lot easier.

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-13 11:59:18

^ Ooh, an LVM guide smile Bookmarked that to read when I have a moment. Thanks smile

Sector11 · 2012-05-13 12:04:56

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ Did you copy /media/5 back to /home after installation?

/media/5 is a separate partition. It is not in /home. It is accessed by programs or directly in a file manager:

ie:

nitrogen uses /media/5/Wallpapers - not ~/images
images from my digital cameras go in /media/5/Camera
anything downloaded with iceweasel - /media/5/zip-tar-gz
iso'd are stored there in /media/5/ISO/subdir - until burned to a CD/DVD
among other things

It's my /home away from /home and a re-install doesn't affect it. It is usable by my second system when I dual boot into it.

This was the first time since buying this 250GB HDD that I have reformatted it, changing partition sizes making both /'s and both /homes's smaller and /media/5 and /media/8 larger.

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Sector11 · 2012-05-13 12:17:29

el_koraco wrote:

Good, now read the LVM guide in my sig and reinstall again with LVM.
You'll find that managing your partitions is a lot easier.

But they are already there, already created and will stay like that as far into the foreseeable future as I can see. Why would I want to re-install - again twice - for the 2 wallies there?

"If it works - don't fix it!" big_smile

SabreWolfy · 2012-05-13 14:28:11

@Sector11: Ok, I read that you backed up /home to /media/5, not backed up /home AND /media/5 smile So how did you restore all of your settings after installing Waldorf? Did you just copy back ~/.config or what?

Sector11 · 2012-05-13 16:21:44

SabreWolfy wrote:

@Sector11: Ok, I read that you backed up /home to /media/5, not backed up /home AND /media/5 So how did you restore all of your settings after installing Waldorf? Did you just copy back ~/.config or what?

Copied all of /media/disk/S11-May which is the backup of /home.

/media/disk = 250GD EXT HDD

/media/disk/S11-May is where my backup script puts my backups for ~/home for May
In June it will create /media/disk/S11-Jun and use that
It also backups /media/5 to /media/disk/M5

There are other 'config' files that programs put in home by default that don't go in ~/.config

Examples:

~/.claws-mail
~/Mail (the actual mail for Claws)
~/.mozilla (settings for Icewasel/Firefox)
~/.icedove (sectings/mail databases for icedove mail)
~/.homebank - if you use Honebank

If you have those "in place" the first time you run the programs after installed, they will use them automatically, rather than create them, and you have all your mail/addresses etc.

After that I run 'ainstall' (AutoINSTALL) my bash script of personal programs based on the:

sudo apt-get install -y program names

in cb-welcome.

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SabreWolfy · 2012-05-13 16:24:13

^ Ok, that's what I meant -- if you copy back all of those files after installing, then you should have most/all of your settings and configs back in place. I want to avoid spending two days setting everything up again smile

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