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apm

#! Junkie

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(solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

i am asking this to determine if i really need to download debian sepreately ,i have a very low speed internet connection and it would take me a month to download the dvd release from disc1-10
but i have crunchbang 10 stable and 11 unstable already installed so if it is the same under the hood as debian then may be i can skip debian downloads and use crunchbang to learn about debian
P.S. i am a newbie, so please go easy on the jargon.

Last edited by apm (2012-05-03 07:46:07)

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rizzo

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

Yes, CrunchBang is pretty much just pure Debian with some custom packages and configurations.

apm

#! Junkie

From: loops and branches of reality

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

so why do the debian ftp servers provide 10 dvd images but #! provides only 1 cd image

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mynis01

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

Those DVDs are for off-line installation of programs. Debian/Crunchbang have package managers which can install programs from the internet.

VastOne

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

Because CrunchBang is a Distro based on Debian with it's own packages and sources, just as Omns said.

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

so why do the debian ftp servers provide 10 dvd images but #! provides only 1 cd image

It's also possible to do a "net install" of Debian which is a much smaller initial download, but requires a certain amount of knowlege of what packages to subsequently install to get a usable syatem.

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pvsage

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

Basically, the 10 DVD images include practically every single package available in the Debian repo, including, I'm sure, several that break each other.  (In other words, installing one either causes another to be uninstalled or prevents another from being installed.)  As mynis01 said, it's for installing packages off-line; if you have network access, you're only an `apt-get install` away from everything on those 10 DVDs.  This is why I've stated elsewhere that I'm sure there isn't a single Debian developer who knows even 10% of the packages available in Debian.

CrunchBang is basically a Debian netinstall plus Openbox, X, a display manager, and a handful of useful applications (all from Debian repos), plus a few tweaks added by a guy living in Lincoln, England.

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

1. Install Crunchbang
2. Remove crunchbang repository
3. Remove everything but core packages
4. update, dist-upgrade,
5. Debian.

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

6. Job well done.

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apm

#! Junkie

From: loops and branches of reality

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

so if i downloaded the first dvd image and installed just it out of the ten, then i will have a working debian
install (with gnome,gcc,emacs,.etc).

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corenominal

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

so if i downloaded the first dvd image and installed just it out of the ten, then i will have a working debian
install (with gnome,gcc,emacs,.etc).

I am not sure about emacs, but effectively, yes. If I remember correctly, only the first disc has ever been needed to perform an install, the rest, as already mentioned, carry additional packages -- many of which will have been superseded by security updates and the like.

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

so if i downloaded the first dvd image and installed just it out of the ten, then i will have a working debian
install (with gnome,gcc,emacs,.etc).

Download the business card iso, it's 40 MB, it will download about 2,5 GB of files for the base system, and you can go from there.

apm

#! Junkie

From: loops and branches of reality

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Re: (solved)just how much debian is crunchbang(solved)

thanks @corenominal and others for your input, i will mark this thread as (solved)

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