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#76 2012-05-02 02:34:27

Toolz
#! Die Hard
From: Asia
Registered: 2009-02-02
Posts: 937

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

el_koraco wrote:
jerry525 wrote:

I come from Parsix, based on debian testing, but they have their own repo's so each release is a snapshot of testing. Mint debian does something similar I belive. You've probably considered it but Just wonder if this is interesting for #!

I doubt it, papanominal has on numerous occasions mentioned what a great release Squeeze has been (I concur completely), and there seems little point in changing a winning formula (syncing with Debian Testing before the freeze and easing into the new release).

I don't think you got the question. What I think he's asking is that for releases of Crunchbang based on wheezy (while wheezy = testing) would it be possible to have a repo branched off testing - a repo that is 'buffered' or you might say 'moderated' - like Parsix and Mint do. This way the testing repo doesn't periodically get flooding with updates that have not been tested much.

Note that testing does not receive security updates from Debian - I think Parsix and Mint blend this into their 'testing' repos too.

@jerry525: I don't think it's gonna happen as it's a lot of work, and Corenominal isn't that big on delegation.

@anybody: How sensible would it be to change from Debian's testing repo to Mint's?

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#77 2012-05-02 03:09:33

paxmark1
#! CrunchBanger
From: Winnipeg, MB Canada
Registered: 2009-07-08
Posts: 112

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Interesting timing. 

I really was going to wait a bit for testing, maybe September. However on the AMD C50 after maybe the bpo 3.2 kernel my video dragged.  I believe I had the ATI Catalsyst 10 series up.  And I had sound problems. 

I tried every way to get Catalyst back up via the CChtml page, which worked like a charm previous.  NO LUCK.

So I went to testing last night.  It should have gone really bad, as I mixed up dist-upgrade vs full-upgrade between aptitude and apt-get, threw in a safe-upgrade, but it worked.   dpkg --confugure -a happened a few times. 

  sudo aptitude install for the fglrx was smooth and I have series 13 for the ATI catalyst.  My .mp4's will play again in real time and I have sound. 

The upgrade in Debian testing for Slim dnw, not even with a -f on the install.  Broken pipes.  I tried lightdm for the first time ever and it went in smooth as silk. Nice. Tint2 was also not installing, but the original is still there.   

10 or 14 upgrades in waiting most associated with ffmpeg. 

So,   ********

Would it be enough to just add in a new section for Waldorf in my /etc/apt/sources.list?  Or would y'all recommend a clean install with the 32 bit version in case my aptitude ?

peace, Mark

EDIT :  you can move this to the Waldorf thread.

Last edited by paxmark1 (2012-05-02 07:07:20)


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#78 2012-05-02 03:19:19

Jabroneous
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Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Aaaaah! The day has arrived!

Out of curiosity, what was your reason for including PulseAudio this time around?

Last edited by Jabroneous (2012-05-02 03:22:12)

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#79 2012-05-02 03:29:36

hhh
Caught in the Vortex
From: Port Salerno
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 1,489

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

@Moderators, please move this if a feedback thread exists or if one should get created.

@Philip,

Hardware (ha ha, a 2006 Sempron, upgraded to 1G RAM): http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/docu … 173&dlc=en

Download: Easy bittorrent, thanks seeders! dd'ed it straight to a 1G Lexar USB, it transferred fine without bs= or sync options.

Boot: Booted right up, fast, too. Beautiful Grub screen, grey and clean with 3 options, I chose Live. From Grub to Desktop was fast and painless too, the default terminal screen changed resolution from 800 to 1024 not too long into it, which was nice.

Live Session: Default res was 1024x768 on my Nvidia 6150 integrated card, grandr set my original CRT monitor to the proper 1152x864 res/75Hz refresh with no complaints, I assume with the nouveau driver? ~110RAM at idle, compositing enabled by default.

Belkin wireless USB adapter? Roger that, connected in 5 seconds. Posting from this Live session now, BTW. Keyboard? US detected, this was a glitch for me back in the day (it would switch to GB, or something). Flawless now, bravo. USB Logitech mouse, no problem. Sound? Muted at bootup but just clicking on the Volume applet had it running. Boo-yah.

Internet? I saw the "Install Iceweasel" option in the root menu and went for it, it downloaded perfectly and I hadn't even looked at sources.list yet, wow. Oh, and then I open a Flash site and it works OOTB. What the... My keyboard volume controls work, and the notifications for them too, and they're pretty?

What's the new compositor? Because it is GORGEOUS. Beautiful, man...
2012_05_02_1335926390_1024x768_scrot.jpg 2012_05_02_1335926547_1152x864_scrot.jpg

Jeebus, look at your Google skin...
Screenshot_05022012_02_43_46_AM.jpg

My nitpicks: Web fonts (this site, for example, fine for the desktop and file manager though) look spindly. Maybe include a basic ~/.fonts.conf file? Include numlockx by default. Is there no GUI for setting the time (mine was the usual USA-east-coast-4hrs off)?

Conclusion: Amazing. Your time has been well spent, if everyone else's feedback is as good as mine you'll have created the best wheezy spin out there, one of the best distros I've ever booted. I'll be installing this tomorrow and can't wait to see how the first-run script has evolved. Cheers, mate. smile

-edit- please has an s in it

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#80 2012-05-02 03:31:49

VastOne
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From: #! Fringe Division
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 9,728
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Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

^ Wow...

One heck of a review hhh!

Thanks for the feedback!


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#81 2012-05-02 03:43:55

hhh
Caught in the Vortex
From: Port Salerno
Registered: 2010-08-04
Posts: 1,489

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

No problem and my pleasure. Sincerely, I was impressed.

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#82 2012-05-02 03:56:12

Jabroneous
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Can't install on my EeePC because the installer fails to load the CDROM (I'm installing from a USB drive).

Installed to USB with Unetbootin, doesn't seem to include the expert/non-GUI install option that previous #! versions and current Debian builds have. Do you plan to include it?

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#83 2012-05-02 04:05:51

machinebacon
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From: PRC
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,214
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Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Jab: when the error occurs, drop into a shell and mount the USB drive in place of the CD-ROM:

mount /dev/sdX /cdrom 

where sdX is the USB stick. Exit the shell and try the previous step in the installer again.

References:
bugreport http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636398


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#84 2012-05-02 04:10:42

Jabroneous
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Ah, you're a saint! Many thanks.

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#85 2012-05-02 05:26:08

damo
#! Die Hard
From: N51.5 W002.8 (mostly)
Registered: 2011-11-24
Posts: 653

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

corenominal wrote:
chiffon_rouge wrote:

I seem to be the only who is getting the "failed to execute login command" error regarding SLIM? Whenever I boot the Live CD it shows me this error message and after that the SLIM login screen appears, yet I can't login, because I don't have a password/user account.

Is there a workaround? I would love to check out Waldorf before I abandon Statler.

Hmm, that doesn't sound good. What type of hardware are you running it on?

Same here - but as per another post, I used "live" as the password, and all was fine.
(Dell Inspiron 1545)


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#86 2012-05-02 06:55:02

corenominal
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From: Lincoln, UK
Registered: 2008-11-20
Posts: 4,887
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Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Wow! Thank you all for your feedback. I really was not expecting many people to actually give the first builds a try, but it seems to be flying off the servers. Great stuff, thank you smile

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#87 2012-05-02 07:01:33

Milozzy
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Registered: 2011-02-22
Posts: 587
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Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

I'm late but from now on I will seed till I bleed!!!
Thank you canonic...ehm...papanominal!!! big_smile tongue

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#88 2012-05-02 07:10:56

corenominal
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From: Lincoln, UK
Registered: 2008-11-20
Posts: 4,887
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Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Milozzy wrote:

...I will seed till I bleed!!!

Please do not hurt yourself! But thank you! big_smile

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#89 2012-05-02 08:16:41

el_koraco
#!/loony/bun
From: inside Ed
Registered: 2011-07-25
Posts: 4,646

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Toolz wrote:

Note that testing does not receive security updates from Debian - I think Parsix and Mint blend this into their 'testing' repos too.

http://secure-testing.debian.net/
You're right in me not understanding the OPs question. I don't think freezing wheezy and letting stuff trickle down sources makes too much sense though, there are all those Sid users who already do the testing. If Ubuntu has taught us anything, it's that fiddling with Debian packages leads to further instability.

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#90 2012-05-02 10:39:43

vicshrike
#! by Default
From: /Darkside
Registered: 2009-02-13
Posts: 2,433

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Loaded Waldorf to an usb this morning, with unetbootin, yeah I know. Live session went smooth, no problem. Install failed because of "Debian cd-rom not certified" or something similar. Will try with "dd" method tomorrow. Did try with a new burn on dvd.rw, stops at "Detecting network hardware", will try  installing with my desktop cabled instead of wireless, tomorrow. Still smile Did try with burning a 32 copy, to dvd-rw, same result as the 64 bit, freezes at "Detect..." Funny thing is that I can`t remember ever having trouble installing #!earlier, but it always is a first time. Will also try it on my eeepc tomorrow or friday, depends on what happens in "life".


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#91 2012-05-02 11:20:26

fakeasd
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Registered: 2011-05-04
Posts: 12

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

I cannot install this build. Live session is fine, it hangs trying to copy files from the usb stick saying something about the cdrom not found blabla. I tried opening a shell from the installer and looking at 'ls cdrom' all seems fine... any suggestion? Thank you.

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#92 2012-05-02 13:06:35

Jabroneous
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

machinebacon wrote:

Jab: when the error occurs, drop into a shell and mount the USB drive in place of the CD-ROM:

mount /dev/sdX /cdrom 

where sdX is the USB stick. Exit the shell and try the previous step in the installer again.

References:
bugreport http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636398

I'm afraid I spoke too soon last night. sad

After trying that method, it says the drive is busy and can't be switched up by that command.

Been seeding all night though, slowly but surely!

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#93 2012-05-02 13:19:55

fakeasd
Member
Registered: 2011-05-04
Posts: 12

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Jabroneous wrote:
machinebacon wrote:

Jab: when the error occurs, drop into a shell and mount the USB drive in place of the CD-ROM:

mount /dev/sdX /cdrom 

where sdX is the USB stick. Exit the shell and try the previous step in the installer again.

References:
bugreport http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636398

I'm afraid I spoke too soon last night. sad

After trying that method, it says the drive is busy and can't be switched up by that command.

Been seeding all night though, slowly but surely!

We are on the same boat, try 'ls cdrom', you'll see all files are in the right place, I don't think a remount is useful in this case...

Last edited by fakeasd (2012-05-02 13:20:30)

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#94 2012-05-02 13:20:32

FalloutGuy
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Registered: 2012-04-28
Posts: 21

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Ok, I found my issue and other ppl's issue with getting these newer images to load. It's the new Debian kernel. Not exactly sure what in the kernel is causing the problem. But older kernels work better, at least on AMD systems.

I'm thinking it could be the new UEFI bios. But am not totally sure.


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#95 2012-05-02 13:24:50

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,555

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Took it for a test drive last night on my eee, runs well, very fast! smile


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#96 2012-05-02 13:33:19

Sergio17771
#! Member
Registered: 2009-06-21
Posts: 87

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Copied the image to usb using the recommended way. It boots to the grub screen...choosing the live option, but no respond, nothing happens.Choosing the install option..it direct me to the installation page, but I didn't risk it to install as I have no extra space on HD.
hp compaq nx7000 (http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quic … 67_na.html) laptop with intel Pentium M processor

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#97 2012-05-02 13:54:35

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From: PRC
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,214
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Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

Sergio17771 wrote:

Copied the image to usb using the recommended way. It boots to the grub screen...choosing the live option, but no respond, nothing happens.Choosing the install option..it direct me to the installation page, but I didn't risk it to install as I have no extra space on HD.
hp compaq nx7000 (http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quic … 67_na.html) laptop with intel Pentium M processor

In the GRUB kernel line add the kernel boot parameter fb=false and/or vga=791 where you see something with ro


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#98 2012-05-02 14:21:26

Toolz
#! Die Hard
From: Asia
Registered: 2009-02-02
Posts: 937

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

el_koraco wrote:
Toolz wrote:

Note that testing does not receive security updates from Debian ...

http://secure-testing.debian.net/

Thanks. You learn something new ...

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#99 2012-05-02 14:25:17

Jabroneous
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2011-11-26
Posts: 123

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

fakeasd wrote:
Jabroneous wrote:
machinebacon wrote:

Jab: when the error occurs, drop into a shell and mount the USB drive in place of the CD-ROM:

mount /dev/sdX /cdrom 

where sdX is the USB stick. Exit the shell and try the previous step in the installer again.

References:
bugreport http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636398

I'm afraid I spoke too soon last night. sad

After trying that method, it says the drive is busy and can't be switched up by that command.

Been seeding all night though, slowly but surely!

We are on the same boat, try 'ls cdrom', you'll see all files are in the right place, I don't think a remount is useful in this case...

I always use Expert Install for the standard Debian Wheezy and have no problems. I wonder if it'll be added to future RCs.

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#100 2012-05-02 14:35:10

LittleBigFox
New Member
Registered: 2012-05-02
Posts: 3

Re: Waldorf development images ready for testing

fakeasd wrote:
Jabroneous wrote:
machinebacon wrote:

Jab: when the error occurs, drop into a shell and mount the USB drive in place of the CD-ROM:

mount /dev/sdX /cdrom 

where sdX is the USB stick. Exit the shell and try the previous step in the installer again.

References:
bugreport http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636398

I'm afraid I spoke too soon last night. sad

After trying that method, it says the drive is busy and can't be switched up by that command.

Been seeding all night though, slowly but surely!

We are on the same boat, try 'ls cdrom', you'll see all files are in the right place, I don't think a remount is useful in this case...

Hi,

If it's the same exact problem i had, i've posted the solution i applied there --> http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … usb-stick/

Hope it'll help ya smile

Regards.

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