Making Crunchbang feel more like Windows 7?

VastOne · 2012-02-26 01:26:49

2ManyDogs wrote:

ivanovnegro wrote:
As an Xfce user myself, I agree, if you want lightweight more or less and not KDE, really for Windows lovers that want to make their desktop similar, take Xfce.
Isn't this why VastOne recommends Xfce to his ex-windows clients?

Only when compared to the OB experience, not so much because Xfce is similar to Windows, more so because it is easier to navigate and that it auto updates the menus.

rhowaldt · 2012-02-26 11:29:00

Lifehacker - Zorin is a Linux OS that looks and behaves like Windows 7

Sector11 · 2012-02-26 15:03:44

kd5ob wrote:

Do people hate XFCE? I think it's going to be the GNOME replacement myself. It reminds me of Windows 3.11.
I used to use only Window Maker before I got Crunch Bang.
I'm going to work on getting my Debian menus to show up on Open Box.
Tried the WIKI example a day ago and somehow failed. Guess I'll try again.

Are you taking about the obam Pipemenu? In the XDG Application Menus section.

Openbox:Pipemenus:obam Openbox Application Menu reads .desktop files from multiple directories to construct a flat menu. This is especially useful if your system doesn't have working XDG or Debian menus.

hhh · 2012-02-26 17:06:05

strolskon wrote:

Or, you know... right click on the mixer icon, choose "Preferences", then enable the "Hotkeys" there ?
At least that works in the default Crunchbang configuration...

So you just wanted to know why those shortcuts aren't enabled by default?

Move along people, nothing to be gained here except wasted time.

Last edited by hhh (2012-02-26 17:14:33)

strolskon · 2012-02-26 20:56:36

hhh wrote:

strolskon wrote:
Or, you know... right click on the mixer icon, choose "Preferences", then enable the "Hotkeys" there ?
At least that works in the default Crunchbang configuration...
So you just wanted to know why those shortcuts aren't enabled by default?
Move along people, nothing to be gained here except wasted time.

Um... I just mentioned that I found it a bit odd that shortcuts aren't enabled by default, since I didn't see any reason not to have them. Someone replied with a (complicated) way to enable them, and I pointed out an easier way to do so. Did I do something wrong?

rhowaldt wrote:

Lifehacker - Zorin is a Linux OS that looks and behaves like Windows 7

Interesting. I'll give it a try.

Last edited by strolskon (2012-02-26 21:11:01)

pvsage · 2012-02-26 21:52:11

^ There are a few applications - I think VLC is one of them - which, strangely, don't respond to the media volume keys just because the boxes are ticked in volwheel prefs; if the hotkeys are trapped by rc.xml, they work wherever you are within the openbox session.

kd5ob · 2012-02-26 22:11:58

Sector11 wrote:

kd5ob wrote:
Do people hate XFCE? I think it's going to be the GNOME replacement myself. It reminds me of Windows 3.11.
I used to use only Window Maker before I got Crunch Bang.
I'm going to work on getting my Debian menus to show up on Open Box.
Tried the WIKI example a day ago and somehow failed. Guess I'll try again.
Are you taking about the obam Pipemenu? In the XDG Application Menus section.
Openbox:Pipemenus:obam Openbox Application Menu reads .desktop files from multiple directories to construct a flat menu. This is especially useful if your system doesn't have working XDG or Debian menus.

No,

Up on the Crunch Bang Wiki is a menu's thing which talks about creating a submenu which you can use to populate automatically with the standard Debian based menu's.
I've hosed it up somehow and still trying to figure it out.
I'd use openbox if I could just get it working...

kd5ob · 2012-02-26 22:13:24

ivanovnegro wrote:

As an Xfce user myself, I agree, if you want lightweight more or less and not KDE, really for Windows lovers that want to make their desktop similar, take Xfce. Though on Xfce 4.8 you even have drag and drop of launchers but you can get all that with a right click too in Xfce 4.6. There is still no big difference how the desktop works in general. Transparency is also build in Xfwm. I know, you have just to browse our screenshot threads, you will see incredible shots of Xfce, epecially from @hhh and @omns, with or without Compiz.
There is no snapping or tiling but something similar, you can have it with keybindings, you can fill the whole desktop with windows.

Reading this with interest.. Wounder if upgrading to 4.8 would be worth the trouble???

hhh · 2012-02-28 20:28:23

strolskon wrote:

? ... Someone replied with a (complicated) way to enable them, and I pointed out an easier way to do so. Did I do something wrong?

Wouldn't you be miffed if you wrote a 4 paragraph response to a question and all you got was an eyeroll?

hhh · 2012-02-28 20:29:38

@kd5ob, moving from Xfce 4.6 to 4.8 upgrades / installs over 900 packages, I'd say it's not worth it.

2ManyDogs · 2012-02-28 20:32:04

hhh wrote:

Move along people, nothing to be gained here except wasted time.

Agreed. I wonder if this thread has served its useful life...

bastiano · 2012-02-28 20:53:08

crunchbang like Windows7. Gruesome!

VastOne · 2012-02-29 00:12:37

^ It certainly not is the move to 4.8 causing 900 additional packages, more so the move to Testing/Sid

Once wheezy is promoted, every one will face this issue.

kd5ob · 2012-02-29 00:25:44

I'll just stick where I'm at with 4.6 XFCE4...
I have everything working. Things are going along great. No complaints.

After having Ubuntu on here for a couple of years, I'm just sick and tired of changing things around.
I hope Shuttleworth knows what the hell he's doing....

ivanovnegro · 2012-02-29 00:32:41

^ What has Shuttleworth to do with Xfce, please, @hhh was right, move on, this thread is dead.

hhh · 2012-02-29 03:32:46

VastOne wrote:

^ It certainly not is the move to 4.8 causing 900 additional packages, more so the move to Testing/Sid

*facepalm* Absolutely correct...

hhh@hhh:~$ apt-cache policy xfce4
xfce4:
  Installed: 4.6.2
  Candidate: 4.8.0.3
  Version table:
     4.8.0.3 0
        500 http://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
 *** 4.6.2 0
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
hhh@hhh:~$ sudo apt-get install xfce4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libxfce4menu-0.1-0 hal hal-info libthunar-vfs-1-2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  gtk2-engines-xfce libexo-1-0 libexo-helpers libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common
  libical0 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  libpoppler-glib6 libpoppler13 libthunarx-2-0 libtumbler-1-0 libxklavier16
  orage policykit-1 poppler-data thunar thunar-data thunar-volman tumbler
  tumbler-common upower xfce4-appfinder xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel xfce4-session
  xfce4-settings xfce4-utils xfconf xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4
Suggested packages:
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin tumbler-plugins-extra
  xfce4-goodies fortunes-mod
Recommended packages:
  xscreensaver xlockmore xlockmore-gl
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libexo-1-0 libexo-helpers libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common libical0
  libpoppler-glib6 libpoppler13 libthunarx-2-0 libtumbler-1-0 poppler-data
  tumbler tumbler-common upower
The following packages will be upgraded:
  gtk2-engines-xfce libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0
  libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libxklavier16 orage policykit-1 thunar thunar-data
  thunar-volman xfce4 xfce4-appfinder xfce4-mixer xfce4-panel xfce4-session
  xfce4-settings xfce4-utils xfconf xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4
21 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 0 to remove and 854 not upgraded.
Need to get 22.3 MB of archives.
After this operation, 11.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
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/oopsy

phonemic · 2012-02-29 09:48:02

I had an idea for mouse snapping but I realized I was wrong so I removed it. I'm hanging my head in shame.

Last edited by phonemic (2012-02-29 10:09:50)

Iranon · 2012-03-11 23:20:26

I hope this doesn't fall under Necromancy Most Foul yet...

if you want drag-to-edge snapping in a simple WM, FVWM can to it. No native compositing though, and not really built for drag&drop functionality (you can probably get some but it'd be silly).

CBizgreat! · 2012-03-12 17:57:17

Iz very simple ...

1st install every daemon or software package that adds bloat to the OS, thatcha can lay hands on, until OS is staggering around in circles and ungodly bloated.

2nd ... Set up your iptables config to be open to any n all outside connection requests from any source. That takes care of making if feel more like win7 securitywise.

3rd and final step, the most critical. Take hammer, repeatedly bash computer tower with it, until the monitor screen turns blue ... There ya go, the BSOD iz back.

Being a dork and messing around. Still suffering from wayyyy toooo muchhhh coffeeeee syndrome atm. tongue

pvsage · 2012-03-12 18:23:37

He said 7, not Vista. tongue

CBizgreat! · 2012-03-12 18:45:20

^LMAO lol

Btw ... wasn't meant to be quippy towards the person who started the thread, just joking round. Guessing installing one of the more full featured desktop environments on #! would be something to look at. Window's managers like openbox/etc aren't really meant to be flashy and eyecandy ways to graphically interact with an OS. Xfce or lxde .... tried lxde not too long ago messing around. Thing actually looked fairly decent and didn't use nearly as many system resources as I was expecting.

Come to think of it may go ahead and install it again to play with. Does seem kinda nice sumtimes taking a break from more spartan gui's. Time to see what apt-get has to say about this. wink

Sector11 · 2012-03-12 19:04:30

pvsage wrote:

He said 7, not Vista.

Wadda mean ... that's good for Win 1.1 right up to and including the next version to come out. lol

@ CBizgreat! - Now that's funny. I'm going to quote you someday!

CBizgreat! · 2012-03-12 19:42:46

^ Lol .. know ... right ? tongue

Glad to see ya Sector, hope lifes going good there. Installed lxde and despite myself am actually liking the thing, pretty dang good looking for something that doesn't use too many resources. Think it's going to stay installed for times when windowmanagerville is too drab feelin. Didn't take too much fiddling with, iceweasel 10.0.2 running( only #! forum open) and free -m in sakura says = 114mbs/ram ... between .3 - 2% cpu. Think it was idling at 66mbs @ startup. Lxde gets a thumbs up so far here. Better looking outta the box than XP imo anyway.

Vll ! smile

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gensym · 2012-03-15 14:47:57

This nice patch for XFCE caught my attention today: Clicky.
(Aero Snap for XFCE)

VastOne · 2012-03-15 14:51:54

^ Thanks for that link gensym, I am going to test this today...

Be interesting to see if Xfce proper will incorporate this...

It will be over written anytime there is a xfwm4 update unless locked specifically to that xfwm4

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