LibreOffice vs OpenOffice vs AbiWord

merelyjim · 2011-05-01 19:32:19

anonymous wrote:

...if you just want spreadsheets, why not try Gnumeric?

I tried. I really did. The one thing I couldn't get used to, no matter what, was the cross-hairs instead of a regular mouse cursor. I'd be moving along at my normal pace, and found that I had input data into the wrong cell because I hadn't clicked into the place where I thought the indicator was.
I know it sounds silly, but if it slows you down when you need to be working... And now that I'm thinking about it, when I have some spare time on my hands, I suppose I should go check if I can change that in the settings. roll

bobrossw · 2011-05-01 19:52:16

another great thing about calc is they finally increased the number of possible columns to sensible 2011 numbers. this was an issue for me when I was trying to look at large datasets in open office (and older versions of excel). I'm not sure if gnumeric still has the older limitations or not.

macondo123 · 2011-05-01 21:54:05

Sector11 wrote:

How do you find SID?

I mostly use Wheezy, Sid is too temperamental for my taste, right now they got issues with udev, (the distro is running well, though) errors are showing at boot time, besides you can get the same Liquorix kernel with Wheezy and ditto with the apps.
I'm thinking about uninstalling it.:/

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rizzo · 2011-05-01 22:02:44

Sector11 wrote:

@ omns - are you running testing or did you just grab LO from testing?

I'm running Squeeze and have libreoffice from testing and Xfce 4.8 from unstable,

Sector11 · 2011-05-02 18:45:04

omns wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
@ omns - are you running testing or did you just grab LO from testing?
I'm running Squeeze and have libreoffice from testing and Xfce 4.8 from unstable,

How the heck does once grab files from testing or unstable without renaming the sources.list?

Is there a HowTo someplace I missed?

anonymous · 2011-05-02 18:46:07

Right here:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … edge-with/

Sector11 · 2011-05-02 18:51:01

macondo123 wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
How do you find SID?
I mostly use Wheezy, Sid is too temperamental for my taste, right now they got issues with udev, (the distro is running well, though) errors are showing at boot time, besides you can get the same Liquorix kernel with Wheezy and ditto with the apps.
I'm thinking about uninstalling it.:/

Wheezy - testing right?

Sounds like me going up the third flight of stairs looking forward to the vacation on the landing before attempting the fourth flight. lol

Sector11 · 2011-05-02 18:52:33

anonymous wrote:

Right here:
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … edge-with/

Where the hell are you? In my shirt pocked looking over my keyboard as I type? lol

Thanks for the link.

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anonymous · 2011-05-02 18:58:22

Sector11 wrote:

Wheezy - testing right?

At the moment, yes.

merelyjim · 2011-05-02 19:49:16

anonymous has wicked-mad ninja skills. cool

macondo123 · 2011-05-02 22:52:30

Sector11 wrote:

anonymous wrote:
Right here:
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … edge-with/
Where the hell are you? In my shirt pocked looking over my keyboard as I type?
Thanks for the link.

IMHO, apt-pinning is the way to go, if you just change your sources.list pick up an app, come back to Stable is just an invitation to a shit storm, in time, the dependencies will change btwn whatever you installed it from and Stable; it will definitely come back to bite you in the butt.

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Rage · 2011-05-03 03:51:59

I am happy with Abiword that came as default for CB. I don't see the reasons to use libreoffice. Abiword can save in docx or create PDF.

Rage

bobrossw · 2011-05-03 05:02:48

^depends on your needs. Those of us who use reference manager software, like zotero or mendeley need to use libre/openoffice (or MSWord) as they work together with plugins. Also Libre is part of an integrated suite...sometimes that comes in handy.

Sector11 · 2011-05-03 15:37:56

macondo123 wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
anonymous wrote:
Right here:
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … edge-with/
Where the hell are you? In my shirt pocked looking over my keyboard as I type?
Thanks for the link.
IMHO, apt-pinning is the way to go, if you just change your sources.list pick up an app, come back to Stable is just an invitation to a shit storm, in time, the dependencies will change btwn whatever you installed it from and Stable; it will definitely will come back to bite you in the butt.

I'll have to read about apt-pinning "carefully" a few time to digest it and determine whether or not I do that. I recall doing it once for something but have no reference of it today.

Nothing is set in stone, I'm on a fact finding mission and obviously at some point LO will be the default.

Do I *need* it NOW? NO!

OO is here so my wife can look at her PPS stuff. If I need to format text for printing (text editors are horrible) Abiword is lighter faster and does a lot more than I require.

I'm also "tempted" to just change my sources.list to /testing/ but that's another story - one computer, two people and I love the stability of Statler.
SideNote: I read somewhere that /testing/ doesn't get security upgrades. That's a factor.

anonymous · 2011-05-03 15:45:12

Sector11 wrote:

SideNote: I read somewhere that /testing/ doesn't get security upgrades. That's a factor.

See here:

http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Sector11 · 2011-05-03 15:59:14

Rage wrote:

I am happy with Abiword that came as default for CB. I don't see the reasons to use libreoffice. Abiword can save in docx or create PDF.

bobrossw wrote:

^depends on your needs. Those of us who use reference manager software, like zotero or mendeley need to use libre/openoffice (or MSWord) as they work together with plugins. Also Libre is part of an integrated suite...sometimes that comes in handy.

I'm retired, and even when I was working I had no requirement for a word processor let alone a "suite" or "office" package. I've always used a text editor for my personal stuff.

But I certainly do understand bobrossw's point as well, he's right: it depends on your needs.

I have even looked at Ted, but never installed it, if they had a 64-bit deb I would have. big_smile

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macondo123 · 2011-05-03 16:08:42

My needs are basic for text writing: leafpad or nano and save in .txt, everybody can read it smile

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bigbenaugust · 2011-05-03 17:47:28

FiniteStateMachine wrote:

I'm surprised you don't know the difference, considering its pretty huge in open-source and linux circles.
OpenOffice was created by Sun, who got bought by Oracle.
LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice. It is run (mostly) by the people who quit when Oracle took over.
At this point, the actual product they are peddling is about the same. You just get to choose between the big monolithic company and open-source guys.

Way back in the dreamtime, there was StarOffice, a product of StarDivision, who were, as I recall, German. It was a nice little multiplatform office suite.

Sun Microsystems bought them... wikipedia says it was 1999, around the StarOffice 4 releases.

OpenOffice.org came a little later, Sun opened the source to SO and used the community's improvements in OO to better SO... essentially selling OO in a pretty purple box with a service contract as SO.

I might still have some StarOffice 5.2 CDs around the house somewhere. smile

Oracle bought Sun and is shedding all sorts of non-$$$$ enterprises within the company. Sun's Linux... killed itself long before the Oracle buyout. OpenSolaris... chucked. OpenOffice... killed after the community abandoned it for LO as described above. Can't wait to see what happens to MySQL.

(sorry to be pedantic, just a former Sun employee who remembers when StarOffice 5.2 was the standard office suite inside of Sun)

Istvan · 2011-05-03 18:00:05

Sector11 wrote:

Rage wrote:
I am happy with Abiword that came as default for CB. I don't see the reasons to use libreoffice. Abiword can save in docx or create PDF.
bobrossw wrote:
^depends on your needs. Those of us who use reference manager software, like zotero or mendeley need to use libre/openoffice (or MSWord) as they work together with plugins. Also Libre is part of an integrated suite...sometimes that comes in handy.

I'm retired, and even when I was working I had no requirement for a word processor let alone a "suite" or "office" package. I've always used a text editor for my personal stuff.
But I certainly do understand bobrossw's point as well, he's right: it depends on your needs.
I have even looked at Ted, but never installed it, if they had a 64-bit deb I would have.

Ted is a small, but neat rich-text editor with basic formatting tools. One of my favorites. I use it for editing jobs, when no heavy formatting is needed. Its even lighter then Abiword. You should try it ...
Khmmm... really no 64-bit package :-(

Sector11 · 2011-05-03 20:03:39

anonymous wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
SideNote: I read somewhere that /testing/ doesn't get security upgrades. That's a factor.
See here:
http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing

Near as I can figure you are a database of answers trolling the forum waiting to pounce!

Thanks again anonymous.

Sector11 · 2011-05-03 20:10:39

Istvan wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
I have even looked at Ted, but never installed it, if they had a 64-bit deb I would have.
Ted is a small, but neat rich-text editor with basic formatting tools. One of my favorites. I use it for editing jobs, when no heavy formatting is needed. Its even lighter then Abiword. You should try it ...
Khmmm... really no 64-bit package :-(

Yea, if some knows how to make a Debian DEB package makes a 64-bit version I'd jump on it.

Or - maybe I'll try someday - what's the worse I could do? {click}
hello! anyone there?
honey, where's the flashlight? big_smile

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merelyjim · 2011-05-03 21:42:20

bigbenaugust wrote:

I might still have some StarOffice 5.2 CDs around the house somewhere.
(sorry to be pedantic, just a former Sun employee who remembers when StarOffice 5.2 was the standard office suite inside of Sun)

When I bought my first copy of Red Hat (in a box, at a retail store!) it came with a free copy of StarOffice 5.2 inside! If it hadn't been for the free copy of SO, I don't think I'd have ever become as devoted to Linux as I have. The only downside (which I never considered a downside) was that I had to hunt for menus that had File, Save, Edit, and Insert on machines that had Microsoft Office loaded - StarOffice, OOo, and LO never felt compelled to give the interface a face-lift and declare it something "new."

And, yes, I DO still have the original CD! Loved that program far too much to get rid of it... Even after I moved to OpenOffice years later.

<sigh>I suddenly feel the need to yell, "get off my lawn you damn kids!"

rizzo · 2011-05-03 21:50:51

merelyjim wrote:

And, yes, I DO still have the original CD!

Damn it, now I have to know if mine is lying around here somewhere as well smile

bobrossw · 2011-05-03 22:09:15

merelyjim wrote:

The only downside (which I never considered a downside) was that I had to hunt for menus that had File, Save, Edit, and Insert on machines that had Microsoft Office loaded - StarOffice, OOo, and LO never felt compelled to give the interface a face-lift and declare it something "new."

But I thought Microsoft Office was easier to use, and more consistent...not requiring users to adjust to new ways of doing things.

http://ixnotes.wordpress.com/2009/09/06 … employees/

"by using MSOffice 2007, we have reduced the internal support costs significantly because our staff is familiar with this system..."

See the ribbon is well understood and familiar to people!

Just like windows....
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2 … office.ars

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vrkalak · 2011-05-03 22:15:15

I prefer AbiWord myself . . . light and simple to use. I don't do a lot of Word Processor stuff.

My all-time favorite WP program is: Jarte > http://www.jarte.com/

Unfortunately, it is a MS Windows only program, at the moment ... I'm waiting for the Jarte Devs to make a Linux version.
I refuse to use any Windows-based programs through Wine or other CrossOver App.

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