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#1 2010-05-21 21:30:08

MartinRF
#! Junkie
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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[Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Hello there,

Sometime this week I realized Youtube has stopped working. It did work last weekend and other Flash-videos like the talks at TED still work just fine. Youtube does work fine on my Vista box at work (Firefox 3.6) and even on W2k on Virtualbox here at home under #! 8.10 (using Opera).

To the best of my knowledge I have not 'up-dated' anything on #! this week (too busy with other things). When using Firefox I get some 15 s of video and then it stops and pretends to download the rest. When using Opera I get an error message right away. "Sorry a problem has occurred please come back later"

I have tried to un-installing and then re-installing Flash (yes, it is the latest available version) but to no avail.

Anyone else having this problem?
Any leads?

TIA,

/Martin

Last edited by MartinRF (2010-05-28 21:41:38)

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#2 2010-05-22 01:25:44

Val_B
#! CrunchBanger
From: SE United States
Registered: 2010-01-25
Posts: 238

Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Which flash plugin are you using? The non-free adobe one, or the GNU flash plugin? I would check just to be sure.

Works fine on all my computers:
Windows XP x64 IE 64 & 32
Windows XP x64 Seamonkey 2.0.2
Windows 2k3 S i386: Custom-made browser (uses IE to render HTML).
Mandriva Linux Konqueror on KDE 4.3.2
Linux Mint 7 Seamonkey 2.0.4 on KDE 3.5.10
Ubuntu 9.10: Seamonkey 2.0.3 on KDE 4.4.3

This tells me it is likely your software that is at fault rather than youtube....

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#3 2010-05-22 01:44:56

anonymous
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Have you tried updating your #! now?

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#4 2010-05-22 07:41:45

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

I am using the adobe plug-in.
I just ran up-date and it tells me the system is up-to-date.
I just tried Youtube and only get an error message.

Yes, since Youtube works on other systems including W2k in Virtualbox on the same machine with #! as host it looks like there is something the matter with my SW but I have not touched it and other Flash content including videos work just fine. I am puzzled.

Here is an example of something that works without any hint of a problem:
http://www.calatrava.com/main.htm

/Martin

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#5 2010-05-22 19:53:32

Val_B
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From: SE United States
Registered: 2010-01-25
Posts: 238

Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Does your browser have any error messages when ran from a terminal emulator when it crashes? It might help shed some light on the problem. You could try the Gnu flash plugin and see if that helps, it isn't perfect but, I have never had it crash my system when it couldn't play a video (though neither has the adobe one). This seems to be a rather peculiar error, as it doesn't seem to effect things aside from flash video....

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#6 2010-05-22 21:16:58

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

I get no error messages in terminal window whatsoever.
I can watch Flash video, TED talks for instance but not Youtube or Google video.

Browsing through Synaptic earlier today I found two instances of Adobe's plugin. I un-installed the one I have been using so far and tried the other one but it behaves the same. I saw no Gnu flash plugin but maybe I was looking for the wrong thing. What is the name of the package?

TED: http://www.ted.com/ (listening to Evelyn Glennie's talk as I write)

/Martin

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#7 2010-05-22 21:29:33

Val_B
#! CrunchBanger
From: SE United States
Registered: 2010-01-25
Posts: 238

Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

in my repos (ubuntu 9.04) it is called: gnash and mozilla-plugin-gnash

If your running KDE it is klash and konqueror-plugin-gnash

I used it a bit in Ecomstation (OS/2) and it worked alright there, but I think it is pretty much alpha software

Have you tried other browsers? Such as Chrome, Konqueror or Midori? There might be a really specific bug in FF or Gecko that is causing this if it isn't your plugin.

Last edited by Val_B (2010-05-22 21:32:16)

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#8 2010-05-23 08:52:29

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Gnash is worse: nothing works. I am on #! 8.10 so it may be an earlier version than the one you have used.

Midori promptly crashes if I try Flash content.

Opera gives me an error message in the Flash player.

Chrome behaves exactly the same as Firefox when it comes to Flash.

Today I notice that I can get another few seconds of video from Youtube if I click at the progress bar somewhere beyond the point where it stopped.

/Martin

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#9 2010-05-23 20:49:47

anonymous
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Have you tried CrunchBang 9.04 to see if YouTube works ok in it?

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#10 2010-05-23 21:43:42

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Nope, I have not tried that and right now I am too busy with other stuff for an OS over-haul. After all this worked just fine a mere week ago with the very same SW. I half suspect I accidentally touched some setting somewhere but so far I have failed to figure out what it may be.

A little earlier tonight I found that fiddling with the Flash player controls can take me through a Youtube video piece by piece: Like shifting between 360 and 480 or stepping forward and backward with arrow keys. Doing any of these gives me another 5-10 s of video.

Really, really odd.

Time to count some sheep...

/Martin

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#11 2010-05-24 01:15:07

anonymous
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Have you tried with a clean Firefox profile?

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager#Linux

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#12 2010-05-24 21:50:15

MartinRF
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Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Now I have and, no that didn't help either.
:-(

/Martin

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#13 2010-05-25 03:13:41

anonymous
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

What version of Firefox are you using on CrunchBang? Have you tried updating to 3.6?

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#14 2010-05-25 06:00:45

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

I am using Firefox 3.6.3 and Opera 10.10 and in the interest of solving this problem Chrome 5.0.375.55 beta. All have the same problem with Flash videos. The Firefox/Flash and Opera/Flash combos have worked just fine until early last week.

/Martin

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#15 2010-05-25 06:33:13

anonymous
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

See if this has any effect: open Firefox and go to about:config, search for "browser.sessionstore.interval" and increase its value to like 100000 or 300000, then restart Firefox and try viewing YouTube again.

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#16 2010-05-25 18:19:35

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Browser.sessionstore.interval was 10000 (the same as on my Vistabox at work). I changed it to 100000 and restarted Firefox, to no avail. I am not too surprised. Why would Opera and Chrome be affected if it came down to some parameter in Firefox?

Could anything in .adobe or .macromedia be messing my life up?

/Martin

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#17 2010-05-25 19:12:11

anonymous
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Delete them and find out.

Also have you tried using CrunchBang 9.04 as a live cd?

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#18 2010-05-25 20:13:01

MartinRF
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From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

I already did the delete thing and that didn't help any.

Trying a live CD is a good idea but then again; this system worked and did Youtube etc not many days ago...

I don't see how testing a live CD will help me fix my system. I don't have time for an up-grade or re-install right now. I am busy getting my boat into the water. Here is how it sails in a video I can't watch right now:
http://www.youtube.com/user/N59E18

/Martin

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#19 2010-05-25 20:30:22

bozhkov
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Registered: 2009-12-29
Posts: 463

Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Have you tried removing the .macromedia directory from ~/ ? smile
PS: Oops, I didn't see it was already mentioned! roll

Last edited by bozhkov (2010-05-25 20:31:31)

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#20 2010-05-26 15:26:17

saneks
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Registered: 2009-10-01
Posts: 999

Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

(me posted in wrong topic)

Last edited by saneks (2010-05-26 15:27:17)


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#21 2010-05-27 21:16:47

MartinRF
#! Junkie
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

I think I am on to something: I just noticed my root partition is full. But why? And why does it not affect videos at TED?

I'll keep you posted.

/Martin

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#22 2010-05-28 11:22:07

mzsade
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2009-09-27
Posts: 212

Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

Yep, something certainly is up with youtube, also youku (i understand that's the Chinese version of youtube), videos stop loading after a few minutes.

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#23 2010-05-28 22:03:47

MartinRF
#! Junkie
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Registered: 2009-01-23
Posts: 397
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Re: [Solved] What's up with Youtube this week?

MartinRF wrote:

I think I am on to something: I just noticed my root partition is full. But why? And why does it not affect videos at TED?

I'll keep you posted.

Yes, this was it!
I have cleared up some space on / by removing Chrome and an old Linux kernel I don't use. This was not enough but removing some stuff from /var/cache/apt/archives by running

sudo apt-get autoclean

helped.

Now all Flash videos work again. It is still a puzzle to me why the material from TED was not affected. Contrary to Youtube there is no temporary file in /tmp when watching TED. Is it just somewhere else or do they make do without caching?

I have some further questions regarding cleaning up the root partition but I will start a fresh thread for that.

Thanks for the energy spent on this.

/Martin

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