Apps +/-

IgorP · 2010-03-13 13:19:37

Happy to hear that new version comes closer to download smile

Is there a big change in Statlers app list relative to 9.04 ?!

Thank you,

Regards!

corenominal · 2010-03-13 13:27:38

The early builds have contained relatively few applications, just to help keep build times down. I would be interested to know what applications people would like to see included in Statler.

rizzo · 2010-03-13 13:33:01

^ Well you already know mine but I'll post them here for discussion. Some of my core apps would be

* gimp
* gftp
* audacity
* pino (cool app)
* viewnoir (another one)
* xchat
* xfburn
* cups
* hpijs
* gthumb
* volwheel
* vlc
* iceweasel

IgorP · 2010-03-13 13:41:15

Philip,

Now you're officaly opening pandoras box (with that question). smile

Hahahah!

My suggestions:

+ SRware Iron browser (faaaasstttt)
+ Gnote (light, fast)
+ Audacious (best sound output quality)
+ Viewnior (slide show)

- Xfburn (I've got errors both on laptop and desktop when burned CDs ?!)
- Liferea (sloooow in refresh..better use RSS plugin for Claws-mail)

Regards!

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murraythegoz · 2010-03-13 13:41:20

Being an happy 8.10 and 9.04 user, I'd like to keep it lean:
- leafpad
- openbox & conky (and they simple config scripts)
- vlc (instead of IMHO "bloated" gstreamer infrastructure)

And on usability:
- networkmanager (unless you find something which can handle UMTS keys and Cisco/MS/openvpn connection out of th box)
- firefox (sorry, I'm an addon addicted)
- synaptic
- A good installer, just like the 9.04 is.
- thunar instead of pcmanfm

Everything else is up to your good sense.
(I would install openoffice, wireshark, nmap, kismet, mausezahn, gigolo, sun-java, flash, and skype, but could live without them in basic install).

my two cents.

m.

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IgorP · 2010-03-13 13:42:30

omns,

I saw pino on your screenshots.

Is it better than Gwibber. I saw that it can shows retweets. Comments ?!

Thank you,

Regards!

snowpine · 2010-03-13 13:47:05

Whichever apps you want, Corenomial... we all know how to add/remove them! smile
My only "wish" is that you continue to include the multimedia codecs and stuff (as in the Ubuntu releases) since these are slightly more difficult to install in Debian. (can't just install ubuntu-restricted-extras)

corenominal · 2010-03-13 13:54:47

snowpine wrote:

My only "wish" is that you continue to include the multimedia codecs and stuff (as in the Ubuntu releases) since these are slightly more difficult to install in Debian. (can't just install ubuntu-restricted-extras)

Hopefully your wish will be granted. I have included these in the early builds and so far they seem to working well. I will continue to test as many formats as possible. smile

gutterslob · 2010-03-13 14:08:22

Well,
I personally was a bigger fan of the Lite version when I used #! 9.04.
I'm not really sure if there's still going to be a "Lite" and "Full" version of Statler, though.

I quite like the terminal apps that came with #! Lite, so I definitely hope those will make the cut (except for naim, does anyone even use that?)

I've not been a fan of the newer versions of Firefox (for various reasons, Bing included...and lets forget about Iceweasel, shall we) and would hope to see a lighter default browser, but something still recognizable to the average Linux user.... Chromium or Midori would seem good candidates..... Uzbl (pronounced usable) is my current favourite "secondary" web browser, and Igor's choice of SRware's Iron also makes a strong case for itself.

Also support Thunar for default file manager, since there'll also be an Xfce version. (I'm most comfortable with Midnight Commander or FDclone, though, so this doesn't really make much of a difference to my workflow)

Corenominal basically got most of #!'s default apps right the first time round, so I wouldn't really change too much... I actually install many of #! Lite 9.04's included apps on my current Sidux+Openbox setup.

Seriously, I'd be happy with whatever Corenominal and Omns (and anyone else involved) bring to the table, as long as it works with my blasted Broadcom wireless device. wink

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snowpine · 2010-03-13 14:12:45

I would assume Iceweasel is the default browser (since Firefox is not in the Debian repos)?

gutterslob · 2010-03-13 14:15:42

^^Yup, it's Iceweasel (which isn't exactly identical to FF)

FiniteStateMachine · 2010-03-13 14:17:29

I would much like it if there were a lite and a full version.
I don't use many of the applications that are included in #! 9.04 standard, and it can be a pain to remove everything.

danielrmt · 2010-03-13 14:24:32

gutterslob wrote:

I've not been a fan of the newer versions of Firefox (for various reasons, Bing included...and lets forget about Iceweasel, shall we) and would hope to see a lighter default browser, but something still recognizable to the average Linux user.... Chromium or Midori would seem good candidates..... Uzbl (pronounced usable) is my current favourite, and Igor's choice of SRware also makes a strong case for itself.

Chromium have some issues with xcompmgr. When you maximize it, part of the window is hidden. (I suppose Iron have the same issue?)
Uzbl is great, as is GVim, but it requires some extra learning, so I don't think it should be the default.
Epiphany is lightweight, but I think it depends on some Gnome libs.
Midori is a more "independent" lightweight browser IMO.
Perhaps Opera? I don't really like it, but it is another option.
Firefox/Iceweasel are "if its not broke, dont fix it" option.

gutterslob · 2010-03-13 14:34:08

Chromium have some issues with xcompmgr. When you maximize it, part of the window is hidden.

I've heard various people complaining about Chromium not playing nice with xcompmgr, but I've not experienced any as of yet (did I get lucky?)... only thing it doesn't do is fade in and out like other windows do if I have the -D option enabled.

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danielrmt · 2010-03-13 14:51:16

gutterslob wrote:

Chromium have some issues with xcompmgr. When you maximize it, part of the window is hidden.
I've heard various people complaining about Chromium not playing nice with xcompmgr, but I've not experienced any as of yet (did I get lucky?)... only thing it doesn't do is fade in and out like other windows do if I have the -D option enabled.

It is this bug. It does not happen when you set Chromium to "use system titlebar".

Istvan · 2010-03-13 15:31:34

Hello everyone

I would suggest
fotoxx + ufraw for images
viewnior as a fast image viewer
VLC instead of gstreamer-based apps
Midori or Chromium as web browser

I prefer Thunar + Gigolo as a file manager because it can handle Ftp, and Samba shares , and has lots of add-ons.
I just love AdComp's little apps, adesk-launcher, adesk-bar , trans-follow , etc. It would be nice to see them as default applications in the future release.
And, xscreensaver, slim, gmrun, leafpad, volwheel and the numerous terminal-apps from the lite version.

Cheers

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fox · 2010-03-13 16:01:37

I like Chromium except for the absence of scroll-up and scroll-down arrows in the scroll bar. (This only happens in Linux, not MacOSX.) Because of that, my preference is for Opera. For some reason with Firefox, the load wheel is still active well after the app starts and the window is loaded. If Firefox is going to be the default, let it be with the Firefox branding, which looks nicer than Ice Weasel.

p0rksh3d · 2010-03-13 16:18:23

I think it would be cool to see chromium or uzbl make it on the "lite" version since webkit is less resource intensive.

This might violate the lite policy though, since it seems to be like the base of standard.

Edit: I should have read the lite section, sry just woke up tongue

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Sergio17771 · 2010-03-13 16:20:51

hello there
I actually always use crunchbang lite, as I don't use all the apps used in the stander edition(I hope there will be a lite edition), my suggestion is
SRware Iron browser
Mplayer
I prefer pcmanfm to thunar, but lately I replaced pcmanfm with XFE which is very light file-manger, so maybe it can be included in the lite edition.
I hope you give attention to the command line apps as I use some of them(rtorrent,moc,midnight commander.....etc),or if there is better command line apps you can include or test. I like claw mail, it's fast responsive but it always disappoint me(take alot of time to load my gmail account and bugy), so I use thunderbird 2 which is not that slow.
my 2 cent and thanks to everyone working on this project

and of course not to forget conky

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yt · 2010-03-13 16:35:21

gutterslob wrote:

Well,
I personally was a bigger fan of the Lite version when I used #! 9.04.
I'm not really sure if there's still going to be a "Lite" and "Full" version of Statler, though.
I quite like the terminal apps that came with #! Lite, so I definitely hope those will make the cut (except for naim, does anyone even use that?)

I'm a big fan of cli-applications and light software in general, too. Ok, surely because of my old but loved thinkpad - it isn't as fast as it was years ago.

So I personally would like to see the standard version as light as possible - but comparable with the standard crunchbang would be fine for me

achristoffersen · 2010-03-13 17:28:25

aps that I will install and hope to find in #!

ooo 3.2 (abiword does not come close - sorry)
opera 10.5 when there is a .deb for it
freemind (the latest - I think 0.9)
gvim
geeqie (fantastic photo org / image viewer - works great with RAW)
conky
file manager: No strong preferences - but I think network / samba / sftp etc is important out of the box

w00t!

atomicbricks · 2010-03-13 17:43:23

As long as the important system-level stuff is well chosen, I couldn't care less what browsers, music players, image editors etc are included by default since they are so easy to change.

saneks · 2010-03-13 17:44:55

I use the full version on my eee and other computers and 9.04 played nice with all of them. I like most of the apps that come with #! full. please don't change much in the gui and desktop, keep shortcuts, conky etc..

i liked that xkill has its own keybind in archbang, so I put that into my #! setup, too.

my wishlist:

+1 Lite and a full version
+1 AdComps nice applications (I use adeskbar)
+1 Viewnoir instead of the old image viewer (which sometimes freezes on my machine, don't know why)

maybe wine? (if it doesnt blow up the iso too much, can't remember how big it was)

hm, it's hard to make perfect things better. for me: full eee key support would be good, I still didnt figure out how to disable the wlan chip completely. (but these days I just live with it and am to lazy to do more research on that one)

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Stemp · 2010-03-13 17:47:45

I'm using #! on a netbook, so I need mainly communication's apps :

Pidgin
Midori
Claws Mail
Thunar + Gigolo
Audacious
Pino

Sergio17771 · 2010-03-13 17:59:06

+1 for Audacious

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