gtkrc

JLloyd13 · 2012-09-12 01:24:46

ok so I'm not running #! but joined because I tend to run openbox and can get good help about that around here. currently running freebsd. anyway, installed openbox and I picked and installed a theme off of a website, but the theme changes only the bordor and not tabs/menus inside the border. so, I did some reading and that should be the gtkrc file next to the openbox folder in theme. however, no such file exists! so, question- can I just make/import one? just stick it there and restart? AND where could I find some gtkrcs to start off with so I can just mod from there. dark ones are what I'm going for. thanks.

pidsley · 2012-09-12 01:56:53

You could try doing a little research. Google is your friend.

http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~spex/com … hemes.html

And I think it's called "FreeBSD" -- you might want to check your sig;
and use some capital letters and punctuation marks if you want people to take you seriously.

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VastOne · 2012-09-12 02:31:43

^ Not sure why there is such a need to be so anal about so many things in the OP's post.

Pointing to google is no different than RTFM, IMO. Searching does not always give the same or correct results based on syntax and/or patterns.

Perhaps a little bit of investigating or questioning on your part might uncover why there is little or no punctuation and why there may be a reason for FreBSD.

Cut the guy a break, we are not looking for perfection here. And we do ask folks to ask thier questions here to get help.

VastOne · 2012-09-12 02:36:28

@JLloyd13

If you find a theme you want to use, all you need to do is extract it to /home/ your user name/.themes.

Right click then for the OpenBox Menu and you will find a place in Settings to change the theme to the one you have installed.

pidsley · 2012-09-12 02:43:34

^^ If you had bothered to click on the link I gave him, you would see it was more than RTFM. I do know that he's 14, but that's no excuse.

I have seen a pattern in his questions, and I was trying to help him get better answers in the future.

Calling me anal is quite offensive. I'm surprised.

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JLloyd13 · 2012-09-12 02:57:11

VastOne wrote:

^ Not sure why there is such a need to be so anal about so many things in the OP's post.

thank you. get over typos pid. and goggling is what lead me to asking about a gtkrc file. so just relax. Thats a good link and thank you, but next time I'd like to take my help with a little less back handed-ness. Nobody needs that. I do thank you for pointing out the error in my sig, it was late when I updated it. If I was nothing but a help vampire, I wouldn't have gotten this far in freebsd, so if I post it's because I truly would like some person to person help, as I will try to give to others.

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pidsley · 2012-09-12 02:59:25

JLloyd13 wrote:

goggling is what lead me to asking about a gtkrc file

"goggling"? really?

And yes I know you're using FreeBSD; you point it out at every opportunity. I'm just not impressed. Don't worry, there won't be a next time.

Calling me "pid" is also offensive. Don't do that.

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VastOne · 2012-09-12 03:00:58

^^^ I did click on the link and it is informative, that was not the point.

How do you know he is 14? BTW, I think he is making a wise decision in coming to one of the best forums there is for OpenBox help.

There is a major difference between describing a behavior and calling someone that behavior. I will not argue semantics with you, it was not my intent to call you anything but only to describe a behavior.

pidsley · 2012-09-12 03:02:38

VastOne wrote:

How do you know he is 14?

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/253501/#p253501

It wasn't difficult.

VastOne wrote:

There is a major difference between describing a behavior and calling someone that behavior.

I disagree. It was offensive.

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JLloyd13 · 2012-09-12 03:03:20

pidsley wrote:

JLloyd13 wrote:
goggling is what lead me to asking about a gtkrc file
"goggling"? really?
And yes I know you're using FreeBSD; you point it out at every opportunity. I'm just not impressed. Don't worry, there won't be a next time.

Good. Did you really stalk everyone of my posts to find out what age I am?

EDIT---

and what does age even matter?

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pidsley · 2012-09-12 03:06:50

I don't care how old you are. VastOne said

Perhaps a little bit of investigating or questioning on your part might uncover why there is little or no punctuation and why there may be a reason for FreBSD.

and I assumed he meant that your age was the reason for your spelling and grammar.

In my opinion there is no reason for bad spelling and grammar in a forum where it is easy to take the time to proofread.
Proper spelling and grammar is a sign of respect.

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VastOne · 2012-09-12 03:11:09

Bring it back on topic, the drama is over.

pidsley, check your PM

JLloyd13, do you have a specific theme that you are trying to get to work so that I can help test it?

JLloyd13 · 2012-09-12 03:15:24

Not really, just trying out different ones and surprised to find themes not fully fonctional. Installing said engines now.

Sector11 · 2012-09-12 03:27:04

@ JLloyd13

Did you install 'obconf' and check out Box-Look.org, that takes care of OB menu...

Themes ... install 'lxappearance' and grab themes from XFCE Look or GNOME-Look.org. Lxappearance allows some tweaking of the themes as well. Check: Colour

I lived across the harbour in Dartmouth for 10 years, when it was Dartmouth, not Halifax ... a long time ago! They still sending Christmas trees to Boston?

VastOne · 2012-09-12 03:31:29

@ JLloyd13

You are in capable hands now with Sector11, who knows a whole lot more than I do about OpenBox

JLloyd13 · 2012-09-12 03:32:29

they sure are! my younger sister in grade 3 made some ornaments in class I think. were from the bedford/ tantallon area

thanks for suggesting lxappearance, obconf is a little lacking. the the menu however, I prefer to edit menu.xml itself wink

Sector11 · 2012-09-12 04:04:46

JLloyd13 wrote:

they sure are! my younger sister in grade 3 made some ornaments in class I think. were from the bedford/ tantallon area
thanks for suggesting lxappearance, obconf is a little lacking. the the menu however, I prefer to edit menu.xml itself

Well live and learn! I never knew about the ornaments. Good for your sister.

For those that don't know Boston helped Halifax recover from the largest man made explosion prior to the atomic bomb that destroyed halifax, and Halifax sends them a HUMONGOUS Christmas tree every year as a 'Thank you'. Glad to see it's still going!

Google: Halifax Boston Christmas tree - hit images.

Back on topic:

If you look at my OB Menu you'll see I do tweak those as well, those "separator headers" cannot be done in "obmenu" - don't know why they never added that.

Good luck on your quest and show us a screenie when you get it to your liking!

johnraff · 2012-09-12 05:42:07

About theming: this had me really confused for quite a while. vYTh5OQ

There are two different themes going on. One is the window manager (in this case openbox) theme and one is the widget set (in this case gtk, or sometimes qt) theme. The wm theme controls the stuff round the outside of the window - borders, title bar etc and the gtk theme is for things inside the window - scrollbars, menus etc.

Both kinds are recorded in a bunch of text files and possibly image files that can go in a folder in ~/.themes. You can have any number of different themes in there. Some people provide themes that contain both openbox and gtk data, sometimes only one or the other. Either way, you choose the wm and gtk themes separately. (Most people try to choose themes that look nice together...)

Openbox's theme is set in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml or with obconf.

The gtk theme is set in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or with lxappearance (which will overwrite .gtkrc-2.0).

Hope that helps a bit.

VastOne · 2012-09-12 05:54:31

^ It helps me!.. Thanks John..

Seriously, I am grateful for Xfce and it's simplicity... smile

Digit · 2012-09-12 05:55:27

some excellent tips there, if you can see past the offtopic drama. smile

i will add, that if you want to give applications running as root a gtk theme, themes stored in ~/.themes will not likely be read. if you put your themes in /usr/share/themes, they'll be accessible to all users, including root.

(i prefer to give root a red gtk theme, so it stands out and is always clear to me which gui apps i'm running as root.)

johnraff · 2012-09-12 12:13:46

VastOne wrote:

I am grateful for Xfce and it's simplicity...

Well... yes, in a way. To be honest, it was finding two different places in Xfce's menus to configure themes that got me confused. A little hint what the difference was at that point might have been nice.

Sector11 · 2012-09-12 13:47:33

johnraff wrote:

Openbox's theme is set in ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml or with obconf.
The gtk theme is set in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 or with lxappearance (which will overwrite .gtkrc-2.0).
Hope that helps a bit.

Oh yea, forgot that I knew this. Over the years it just kinda sunk in, never put it to words and would not (as seen above) have been able to put it to words. The contents of this post should be in the OB Wiki some place.

This part:

Some people provide themes that contain both openbox and gtk data, sometimes only one or the other. Either way, you choose the wm and gtk themes separately. (Most people try to choose themes that look nice together...)

is the answer to JLloyd13's quest. I've never seen it put so simple and exact. I was frustrated for a long time until I picked up on it - without realizing it.

Thanks John.

Digit wrote:

i will add, that if you want to give applications running as root a gtk theme, themes stored in ~/.themes will not likely be read. if you put your themes in /usr/share/themes, they'll be accessible to all users, including root.
(i prefer to give root a red gtk theme, so it stands out and is always clear to me which gui apps i'm running as root.)

I'm going to open a thread on "root themes" and will post a link here hoping you come help. I've had problems with root themes for ever. Seem like different apps use different themes at times.

Running "gksu lxappearance" only partly helped.

ElderV.LaCoste · 2012-09-12 14:23:51

VastOne wrote:

^ Not sure why there is such a need to be so anal about so many things in the OP's post.
Pointing to google is no different than RTFM, IMO. Searching does not always give the same or correct results based on syntax and/or patterns.
Perhaps a little bit of investigating or questioning on your part might uncover why there is little or no punctuation and why there may be a reason for FreBSD.
Cut the guy a break, we are not looking for perfection here. And we do ask folks to ask thier questions here to get help.

+1 Not to belabor the point but IMHO this is what sets the Crunchbang forum above many other forums. VastOne you are a great moderator. Thank you for your time and effort in keeping the Crunchbang forums running smoothly. smile

Sector11 · 2012-09-12 14:30:30

ElderV.LaCoste wrote:

+1 VastOne you are a great moderator. Thank you for your time and effort in keeping the Crunchbang forums running smoothly.

To quote the most important part and add: +1

PackRat · 2012-09-12 14:32:41

Sector11 wrote:

I'm going to open a thread on "root themes" and will post a link here hoping you come help. I've had problems with root themes for ever. Seem like different apps use different themes at times.
Running "gksu lxappearance" only partly helped.

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but which apps. Might be that some apps require qt themes, the others are gtk.

I'll keep an eye out for your new thread.

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