Replace Chromium with SRware Iron?

antman711 · 2012-09-08 13:30:43

I read here somewhere that Chromium would be the default browser for Waldorf. Maybe that's old news since it wasn't like that in the testing-image.

Whatever the case, I support this change as well, however I feel that SRWare Iron (or 'Iron' for short) would be an even better choice.

For those of you who don't know, Iron is a web-browser based on Chromium that strips away the questionable privacy matters from it. According to SRWare, even though Chromium is open-source it still has 'nearly the same functions inside than the original Chrome.'

These 'functions' have been explained here: https://www.srware.net/en/software_srwa … s_iron.php

For the most recent version you can check their forums: https://www.srware.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=18

Linux version (including deb and rpm files): https://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic. … d9ab394393

It doesn't seem to be in the repositories for Wheezy.

Also, a small bug report for the Waldorf testing-image (64-bit). I've noticed that the command to quit the terminal (shift + ctrl + q) doesn't work.

Thank you Corenominal for the wonderful distro.

Edit: So I did some more research and found this: http://neugierig.org/software/chromium/ … /iron.html

Nevermind lol.

Last edited by antman711 (2012-09-08 13:57:51)

Awebb · 2012-09-08 14:06:41

I still don't see why I would want that on Linux. I could understand that patching and building Chromium for windows can be a pain in the rear, but good patchsets for Chromium are not too hard to find. There is only a binary repository, no up to date source packages can be found.

And... the last link... very insightful, yes...

edps · 2012-09-08 16:45:24

I've been using SRWare iron is a good time... in the beginning because of some incompatibility of Ubuntu PPA that used in Debian Squeeze, for that created these posts on my blog;

http://gnu2all.blogspot.com/2012/06/srw … dupla.html
http://gnu2all.blogspot.com/2012/07/srw … dates.html

beadmaze · 2012-09-08 19:31:04

iron's not that helpful anymore when it comes to privacy. even protecting from google-sniffings isn't in developers focus anymore. the initial attempt to block out google from the browsers communication is not worked on for the latest releases - instead google services are included/offered.
not to forget: on the actual linux version the "delete browser data"-button in advanced options does not work - all cookies are still there after pushing this button...

after using it for more than 2 years now i'm thinking about switching to chromium.

Awebb · 2012-09-08 19:34:01

I would consider never looking back at it after reading antman711's last link.

beadmaze · 2012-09-09 19:05:20

Awebb wrote:

...good patchsets for Chromium are not too hard to find...

Awebb, does one search for "chromium patchset" to find those?
and how to decide it's a good or a bad patchset then?
can you give a hint where's a good howto for applying such a patchset?
thanks in advance!

Awebb · 2012-09-09 20:40:47

Search for "chromium $THE_FEATURE_I_WANT patch" and join the mailing list.

As for patching, I don't know any howtos. I usually refer to the patch manfile, but try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appy-patch … h-command/

But the sad fact is: You won't make your browser any better, almost no matter what mainstream browser you use and what patch you apply. You will not be able to keep up with the security patches from upstream, your best bet is to use vanilla chromium.

Last edited by Awebb (2012-09-09 20:58:25)

andriyleu · 2012-09-10 08:13:22

Awebb wrote:

Search for "chromium $THE_FEATURE_I_WANT patch" and join the mailing list.
As for patching, I don't know any howtos. I usually refer to the patch manfile, but try this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/appy-patch … h-command/
But the sad fact is: You won't make your browser any better, almost no matter what mainstream browser you use and what patch you apply. You will not be able to keep up with the security patches from upstream, your best bet is to use vanilla chromium.

I agree. You would really need a lot of money to keep updating your browser or have some developers to work in your project, but if they work for "free" open-source normally the updates would come very slowly, so what would the users do? Get IE hahahaha.

Awebb · 2012-09-10 08:26:50

You come to a Linux board, implying that FOSS development is slower than closed source commercial programming? Quite a pair, you grew yourself.

andriyleu · 2012-09-10 08:45:41

Awebb wrote:

You come to a Linux board, implying that FOSS development is slower than closed source commercial programming? Quite a pair, you grew yourself.

I'm talking like if I were typical Windows user.

Awebb · 2012-09-10 10:08:20

I see. I salute the nifty implications behind your curtain of irony.

vicshrike · 2012-09-10 10:11:59

Iceweasel has replaced Chromium as the default browser on the latest Waldorf isos of 20120806.

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … iceweasel/

Last edited by vicshrike (2012-09-14 06:40:01)

profoundWHALE · 2012-09-14 04:30:11

Why not just replace Chromium with Google Chrome? (This might sound weird, but the unstable version would be best due to audio stuff being messed), The main reason is if I remember right, Chrome doesn't need a lot of third-party things that Chromium needs.

Last edited by profoundWHALE (2012-09-14 04:30:37)

Awebb · 2012-09-14 07:45:15

I have chromium on Linux and Chrome on Windows and I really cannot tell a difference between the two. Windows chrome still asks for a flash plugin and Linux chromium did not ask for gstreamer stuff. I'd say have a look at the chromium makefile, maybe the Debian package is made without certain options.

EDIT: See here. I might have been wrong :-D
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ … ogleChrome

The scope of this thread, by the way, was to evaluate whether Chromium is making calls home to the Google HQ and whether Iron would be a good alternative. It was not about features.

Last edited by Awebb (2012-09-14 07:47:52)

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