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#1 2012-08-09 08:50:50

corenominal
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From: Lincoln, UK
Registered: 2008-11-20
Posts: 5,037
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Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Updated Waldorf images are available now.

A good few months have passed since the initial Waldorf images were made available and during this time I received lots and lots of comments, suggests and bug reports. I have done my best to work my way through this feedback and make the necessary changes to improve Waldorf's out-of-the-box experience.

I would like to thank everyone who helped test the previous images and provide constructive and helpful feedback. You rock! smile

What's changed:

  • For the first time, the CrunchBang builds exceed the 700MiB CD limit. I feel that this is unfortunate, but reaching and exceeding the limit was possibly inevitable. If this something that you would like to comment on, please refer to the existing forum thread: Is it time to drop the 700MiB CD Limit?

  • As suggested, ARandR has replaced grandr as the default tool to help with configuring multi-screen set-ups. ARandR provides a nice feature whereby you can save/export complex xrandr commands to file, which can then be referenced via Openbox's autostart. Also, the default SLiM theme has been updated to also accommodate dual screen set-ups.

  • Talking of SLiM, a new GUI app has been developed to help configure the login manager. SLiMconf provides basic options for users to easily configure automatic login accounts, as well as other options, such as changing themes etc.

  • Prettier (highly subjective) fonts. Some changes have been made to try and provide similar font rendering to that of Ubuntu.

  • An additional 486 image has been made available for use on PCs with a single processor not supporting PAE. Interestingly, or not, a good few #! users seem to still require this and so I am happy to be able to provide it, again.

  • News from the Bike Shed Painting Committee: following an interesting forum debate, Iceweasel makes a return as the default browser, replacing Chromium.

  • Sadly, I have replaced (temporarily, hopefully) VLC with GNOME MPlayer. VLC caused issues with Compton, the default compositing manager, and so I decided to replace it with a comparable media player. I am sure that the issues are Compton's, not VLC's, but I am happy to make the switch while I wait for an upstream fix. Providing a stable/solid compositing manager remains at no.1 on my #! hit list.

  • Johnraff's excellent "Places" and "Recent Files" Openbox pipemenus make a return. John does a fantastic job at maintaining these pipemenus and I am happy to see them included by default. Thank you, John.

  • htop included by default, as requested.

  • I have made some modifications to the Debian Installer in an attempt to fix a issue whereby the installer would pause indefinitely on systems containing more than 1 network adapter. Due to limited resources, I have only been able to do limited testing of this, so if you were previously affected by this, I would love to hear from you.

  • As requested, ClipIt has replaced Parcellite as the default clipboard manager.

  • PNMixer has replaced volumeicon as the default system tray sound mixer.

  • Faenza icons.

  • Numerous other miscellaneous fixes and tweaks.

  • 3 months worth of package updates via the Debian repositories. As always, I and the #! community owe a huge thank you to everyone involved in the Debian project, without which #! would not exist. THANK YOU smile

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#2 2012-08-09 09:40:57

rhowaldt
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Registered: 2011-03-09
Posts: 4,396

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

*applause* - good work Philip!

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#3 2012-08-09 09:48:58

fthpl
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From: Turkey
Registered: 2012-06-01
Posts: 150

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Yesterday i installed.Now trying and using it.Very good job smile Also Slim.conf GUI application is well thought out .
Anyway,Thanks.I liked it.


*Crunchbang Waldorf
*Linux Mint Debian Edition

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#4 2012-08-09 10:24:04

sano
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2012-03-07
Posts: 114

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

I am having the same problem as reported here: Live works fine, but the installer won't advance past "Detect disks". The old testing release installed just fine.
I was trying to install it on a fairly new laptop with  a 1TB HD, Windows 7 and Waldorf-20120430 already installed.
If you need any more information, or if there's anything I should/could try please let me know.

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#5 2012-08-09 10:24:16

machinebacon
#! unstable
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,586

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Running 64 bit on AMD 2600+ with on-board nVidia GeForce 6xxx, everything works perfectly. No ghost windows. Installed perfectly from USB (dd method) but didn't find other OS's in the installer "Install GRUB" step. However, they have shown up in GRUB after reboot.
Thanks Philip!

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#6 2012-08-09 11:01:24

cyplo
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Registered: 2012-07-08
Posts: 2

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Hi !
Thanks for al the effort !
regarding 700MiB limit, it can be dropped imho.
At least from my perspective - it was really long ago since I last actually burned some installation cd.
For all these years I've been using usb stick to install all linux distros and it juts works well and involves less work.

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#7 2012-08-09 11:08:44

dom
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Registered: 2010-09-29
Posts: 57

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

sano wrote:

I am having the same problem as reported here: Live works fine, but the installer won't advance past "Detect disks". The old testing release installed just fine.
I was trying to install it on a fairly new laptop with  a 1TB HD, Windows 7 and Waldorf-20120430 already installed.
If you need any more information, or if there's anything I should/could try please let me know.

Same problem here. Running a Thinkpad X200s with a SSD drive. The installer stops when it says "Detect disks" just before it should show the partition options.


[geek to live; don't live to geek]

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#8 2012-08-09 11:09:45

SabreWolfy
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2009-03-09
Posts: 1,285

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

I'm running a fully-updated 32-bit 686 version of the R20120430 release. If I copy all of /var/cache/apt/archives, install the R20120806 release (keeping /home), and then copy back /var/cache/apt/archives, I should be able to reinstall all my installed packages without having to download them again? (They would be the same version is what I'm asking?)

Although this won't work if I have encrypted /home and swap?

Last edited by SabreWolfy (2012-08-09 11:10:50)


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#9 2012-08-09 12:04:37

uke-eda
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Registered: 2012-01-09
Posts: 23

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Can't start the new crunchbang i686 wheezy image in Virtualbox or VMWare. Am I the only one? It just hangs after the first menu appears.

boot: BOOT_DEBUG=3
Could not find kernel image: BOOT_DEBUG=3

I can start the installation process though. Only the live session won't start.

Solved:
Enabeling PAE under System/Processor lets crunchbang boot properly.

Last edited by uke-eda (2012-08-09 14:28:00)

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#10 2012-08-09 12:21:08

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,909

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Yay! Congrats on the new release. smile


/hugged

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#11 2012-08-09 12:55:31

zbreaker
#! CrunchBanger
From: Beyond
Registered: 2012-02-09
Posts: 102

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Wow....very cool. Still running Statler but was looking forward to an updated Wheezy to test out..
Congrats & cheers Phillip!


H-ohcg

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#12 2012-08-09 13:17:17

Ariya
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Registered: 2011-01-11
Posts: 24

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

I still have Statler with Ubuntu, but the Statler with Debian was not to my like, or my computer's like. may I ask, whether you'd be building Waldorf too with Ubuntu in the future?

It is/was a rock solid distro!

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#13 2012-08-09 13:19:50

SabreWolfy
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Registered: 2009-03-09
Posts: 1,285

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

^ Statler is built on Debian Squeeze, not Ubuntu (AFAIK) and Waldorf on Debian Wheezy. I don't think that this will change any time soon. #! is built on Debian now, not Ubuntu. What would the benefit of building it on Ubuntu be?

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#14 2012-08-09 13:23:49

Ariya
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Registered: 2011-01-11
Posts: 24

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ Statler is built on Debian Squeeze, not Ubuntu (AFAIK) and Waldorf on Debian Wheezy. I don't think that this will change any time soon. #! is built on Debian now, not Ubuntu. What would the benefit of building it on Ubuntu be?

I know that, but it was and is a rock solid distro! The forum posts in the past shows that. Everyone loved - loves it still.

#! started with Ubuntu and was and is a huge success.

Or maybe you are right with Statler. It moved to Debian.

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#15 2012-08-09 13:28:19

SabreWolfy
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Registered: 2009-03-09
Posts: 1,285

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

^ The change to Debian was made a while ago and I don't see corenominal changing back to Ubuntu. You can read about it here, with links to other posts and threads about it:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … vs-ubuntu/


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#16 2012-08-09 13:33:01

Ariya
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Registered: 2011-01-11
Posts: 24

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

SabreWolfy wrote:

^ The change to Debian was made a while ago and I don't see corenominal changing back to Ubuntu. You can read about it here, with links to other posts and threads about it:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … vs-ubuntu/

Yes, I believe you are right. Now I am going to download Waldorf.
Have a nice day!

Last edited by Ariya (2012-08-09 13:33:30)

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#17 2012-08-09 13:45:11

machinebacon
#! unstable
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,586

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Ariya, you can make something like #! from any distros base install. We have a bunch of guides and howtos, and I wrote one for a Ubuntu-minimal-based #!12.04. It requires a bit of work, though...

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#18 2012-08-09 14:07:27

sunfizz98
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From: su terminal
Registered: 2011-05-12
Posts: 1,876
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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Yes, and Johnraff made an excellent netinstall script to build #! from the ground up.

@corenomial
I'm not sure how replacing VLC is a bad thing... but isn't SMPlayer more popular than GNOME mplayer?  Just my two cents.  Also happy that htop made the list.

For those wondering, I'm not going to update my cb-lite script unless there is enough demand from the forums.

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#19 2012-08-09 14:12:36

uke-eda
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Registered: 2012-01-09
Posts: 23

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

SMPlayer 1+

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#20 2012-08-09 14:14:20

machinebacon
#! unstable
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,586

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

^ I think we can skip these replace X with Y as long as Z is buggy suggestions. Especially 1 day after release.

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#21 2012-08-09 14:17:37

uke-eda
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Registered: 2012-01-09
Posts: 23

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

^noted

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#22 2012-08-09 14:21:00

machinebacon
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Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,586

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

^ No bad intentions. smile Corenominal will ask us anyway

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#23 2012-08-09 14:21:53

SabreWolfy
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Registered: 2009-03-09
Posts: 1,285

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

machinebacon wrote:

^ I think we can skip these replace X with Y as long as Z is buggy suggestions. Especially 1 day after release.

+1

Just do:

$ sudo apt-get purge X
$ sudo apt-get install Y

That's probably quicker than posting here wink


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#24 2012-08-09 14:23:36

chameleon
#! Die Hard
From: luxembourg (uk guy)
Registered: 2009-01-13
Posts: 587
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Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

Installed 64bit and looking good.

Some feedback;
->The script to install Google Chrome fails;
2012_08_09_1344520267_644x107_scrot.jpg

Not a show stopper as I installed it from the Google site.

->Love the places/recent files pipe menus
->It would be great to see mocp included in a future release...

Fab piece of work as usual.

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#25 2012-08-09 14:25:37

machinebacon
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Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,586

Re: Updated Waldorf "Testing" images: 20120806

^ camel-lion wink : Did the cb-welcome script work?

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