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bp0190

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Registered: 2012-07-28

Posts: 8

LXDE is so fast!!

My only PC right now is this getting old desktop from 2006. intel dual core 2.3 GHz, 512MB RAM, onboard video card only. Basically not a great computer. I was really glad to see how well crunchbang ran on this old thing and now that I installed LXDE it's moving like I had hoped I could get it to. Virtually no lag or freeze up !!!

Everyone out there take care and make the best of your day

VastOne

#! Ranger

From: #! Fringe Division

Registered: 2011-04-26

Posts: 9,726

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Re: LXDE is so fast!!

^  Great to hear it is working so great on your old desktop.

The only issue I have with LXDE is all the dependencies on gnome it installs.

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,644

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

The only issue I have with LXDE is all the dependencies on gnome it installs.

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It installs policykit-gnome, which could as well be called policykit-gtk. There's a difference between GTK and Gnome.

VastOne

#! Ranger

From: #! Fringe Division

Registered: 2011-04-26

Posts: 9,726

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Re: LXDE is so fast!!

Of course there is...

I should have said gnome packages

You must know of a LXDE minimal install I am not aware of.

apt-get install lxde

bluez crda dnsmasq-base galculator gcr gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0
  gnome-bluetooth gnome-keyring gvfs-backends imagemagick-common iw leafpad
  libbluetooth3 libcap-ng0 libcap2-bin libfm-data libfm-gtk-bin libfm-gtk1
  libfm1 libgck-1-0 libgcr-3-1 libgcr-3-common libgnome-bluetooth10
  libjim0debian2 libjpeg-progs liblqr-1-0 libmagickcore5 libmagickwand5
  libmenu-cache1 libnetfilter-conntrack3 libnl-route-3-200 libnm-glib-vpn1
  libnm-glib4 libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 libnm-util2 libopenobex1 libpam-cap
  libpam-gnome-keyring libpcap0.8 librpm3 librpmbuild3 librpmio3 librpmsign1
  libxmmsclient-glib1 lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxde-icon-theme lxinput
  lxmenu-data lxmusic lxpanel lxpolkit lxrandr lxsession lxsession-edit
  lxshortcut lxterminal modemmanager network-manager network-manager-gnome
  obex-data-server obexd-client pcmanfm ppp rpm rpm-common rpm2cpio
  usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data wireless-regdb xarchiver xmms2-core
  xmms2-plugin-alsa xmms2-plugin-id3v2 xmms2-plugin-mad xmms2-plugin-vorbis
  xscreensaver xscreensaver-data

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,644

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

You have gnome-bluetooth and network-manager-gnome. There's no other GTK based frontend to these programs, so the other choice would be to install KDe frontends. Also, there is lxde-core, which is the minimal version.

VastOne

#! Ranger

From: #! Fringe Division

Registered: 2011-04-26

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Re: LXDE is so fast!!

^ Thanks... Appreciate the lxde-core insight

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,644

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

LXDE is a piece of crap.

FiniteStateMachine

Part of the Machine

From: Ontario, Canada

Registered: 2009-06-29

Posts: 1,489

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

LXDE is a piece of crap.

Strong opinion. Not that I disagree, but perhaps you'd care to explain a bit more?

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,644

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

I don't know, it's ugly, complicated to use and doesn't have any redeeming features.

damo

#! Die Hard

From: N51.5 W002.8 (mostly)

Registered: 2011-11-24

Posts: 653

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

I don't know, it's ugly, complicated to use and doesn't have any redeeming features.

I don't have an informed opinion, but your answer is brilliant!

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bp0190

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Registered: 2012-07-28

Posts: 8

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

LXDE is not my favorite but when I was using openbox everything was lagging pretty noticably. Music would skip and stuff when I was browsing or just using the file manager lol. Now with LXDE I am experiencing a much higher system performance. So for me I suppose it could be said that it's pretty damn awesome, not piece of shit

pidsley

#! Die Hard

Registered: 2012-05-23

Posts: 1,348

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

That doesn't make any sense. LXDE is built on Openbox (it uses Openbox as its window manager, and just adds a layer of other stuff on top), so there's no way it should be faster than Openbox alone. Did you change broswers, file managers, or music players?

But hey, if it's working for you, go for it...

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bp0190

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Registered: 2012-07-28

Posts: 8

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

I had been wondering about that myself. I'm running LXDE using openbox as DM and using the same programs as I had been before with just openbox, but somehow it's running with less glitching and lagging. It really doesn't make any sense when I consider it but well, like you say pidsley, if it's working for me....

AnInkedSoul

#! CrunchBanger

Registered: 2010-06-30

Posts: 114

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

apt-get install lxde

dont forget to leave out recomends if you really want cruft-free....

apt-get install lxde --no-install-recommends
or
apt-get install lxde-core --no-install-recommends

hinto

#! Die Hard

From: Cary, NC

Registered: 2010-12-08

Posts: 1,068

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

That doesn't make any sense. LXDE is built on Openbox (it uses Openbox as its window manager, and just adds a layer of other stuff on top), so there's no way it should be faster than Openbox alone. Did you change broswers, file managers, or music players?

But hey, if it's working for you, go for it...

I swapped out Openbox for Metacity to get full theming.  Openbox is just one of the WM is can use.  That being said,,, I don't ues LXDE often.
-H

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mati75

Member

From: Poland // Scotland

Registered: 2011-05-03

Posts: 33

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

dont forget to leave out recomends if you really want cruft-free....

apt-get install lxde --no-install-recommends
or
apt-get install lxde-core --no-install-recommends

I think better way is add to /etc/apt/apt.conf:

APT::Install-Recommends "false";
APT::Install-Suggests "false";
APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "false";
APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false";

rizzo

#! wanderer

From: ~/

Registered: 2008-11-25

Posts: 5,108

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

LXDE is a piece of crap.

+1

I don't know, it's ugly, complicated to use and doesn't have any redeeming features.

+1

Plus, the first one made me spit out my toast as an 'lxde-insight'

AnInkedSoul

#! CrunchBanger

Registered: 2010-06-30

Posts: 114

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

I think better way is add to /etc/apt/apt.conf:

agreed, although I only use APT::Install-Recommends "false";

Iranon

#! CrunchBanger

Registered: 2012-03-10

Posts: 187

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

My reason for disliking it:
It's neither here nor there. LXDE isn't  as pleasantly clean as pure openbox and lacks the intuitive integration that makes a whole DE worthwhile.

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servingwater

#! Junkie

Registered: 2009-02-28

Posts: 423

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

My reason for disliking it:
It's neither here nor there. LXDE isn't  as pleasantly clean as pure openbox and lacks the intuitive integration that makes a whole DE worthwhile.

That's how I feel about it as-well.
Good explanation IMHO.

The only thing out of LXDE I have a use for is lxapperance.

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Ferre

#! Member

From: Belgium

Registered: 2011-02-19

Posts: 72

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

LXDE is just as ugly as you want 2. After all, it's a choice you have to make yourself. I like it, period

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Awebb

The Singularity

Registered: 2009-07-23

Posts: 2,812

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

It's a collection of tools wrapped around a window manager and then called a Desktop Environment. I wouldn't use LXDE, because it draggs Openbox down into the Shadows of the Boring Desktop™. It's not a seamless experience, it's a bunch of tools and a WM.

The tools on the other hand are often nice. Since they're made with Openbox in mind, they often come with less dependencies than other similar tools, while having a solit, intuitive GUI (lxappearance for example). The even have their own display manager, LXDM, almost fully replacing GDM2. As long as they're giving love back upstream to Openbox, I embrace LXDE as one of those projects I will never use, but gladly hope they persist a decade.

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johnraff

#!Drunkard

From: Nagoya, Japan

Registered: 2009-01-07

Posts: 2,466

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Re: LXDE is so fast!!

Maybe lxde isn't the setup for many people round here, but I think they deserve respect for the work they do. My take on their target is the non-geeky user who doesn't have access to modern hardware. (pcmanfm used to be the default for #! btw)

their own display manager, LXDM, almost fully replacing GDM2.

Hey, I'd forgotten about that. Substitute for Slim?

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szymm

Member

From: Poland

Registered: 2012-08-31

Posts: 13

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

I had been wondering about that myself. I'm running LXDE using openbox as DM and using the same programs as I had been before with just openbox, but somehow it's running with less glitching and lagging.

Did you have compositing enabled in Openbox? Maybe that's what slowed it down.

hinto

#! Die Hard

From: Cary, NC

Registered: 2010-12-08

Posts: 1,068

Re: LXDE is so fast!!

I think it works pretty well, it's just a little immature compared to other DE.  As as side note, you can use other Window Mangers with it.  I have used it with Metacity with no problems.
-Hinto

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