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tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

I think I have had enough of the useless Catfish. If there a search tool that will actually let me do file commands within it. For example, a program where I could copy/paste/delete search results? I can't do anything with the results in Catfish but memorize them and search for them one by one in Thunar. Why doesn't linux, in 2012, have a search engine or even a file manager that comparable to windows explorer? Sigh....:rolleyes:

VastOne

#! Ranger

From: #! Fringe Division

Registered: 2011-04-26

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Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

I agree at the terrible search tools in Linux

Probably not what you are looking for, but...

I use spaceFM which is the new release of pcmanfm-mod by ignorantguru.  spaceFM has a built in find file tool that is amazingly fast and once you find the files, you have right click options from that menu that is valuable...

It is an incredible upgrade from Thunar and Catfish, IMO

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xaos52

The Good Doctor

From: Planet of the @s

Registered: 2011-06-24

Posts: 4,490

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Or install the mlocate package, run sudo updatedb, and use the locate command?

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Tunafish

#! Die Hard

From: the Netherlands

Registered: 2010-03-07

Posts: 1,201

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Or install the mlocate package, run sudo updatedb, and use the locate command?

+1
@Xaos: does it make sense to run updatedb as a cron job?

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,654

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Why doesn't linux, in 2012, have a search engine or even a file manager that comparable to windows explorer? Sigh....:rolleyes:

Please, anything but WIndows Explorer. Besides, we have coreutils.

@Tuna
Sure. Though I think mlocate adds itself to /etc/cron.daily.

xaos52

The Good Doctor

From: Planet of the @s

Registered: 2011-06-24

Posts: 4,490

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

@tuna
I do not do it, because I shutdown my comp every day. If you leave your comp running, you can use cron, if not use anacron.
If your comp is not running at the scheduled time, cron will not run the scheduled jobs after startup, anacron will.

I just manually rerun updatedb after I created/deleted a bunch of files, or just before the search.

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tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Or install the mlocate package, run sudo updatedb, and use the locate command?

Is this cli? Looking for gui mainly.

xaos52

The Good Doctor

From: Planet of the @s

Registered: 2011-06-24

Posts: 4,490

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Yes, cli. I prefer it over gui.

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,654

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Or install the mlocate package, run sudo updatedb, and use the locate command?

Is this cli? Looking for gui mainly.

Install Synapse and Zeitgeist, set Synapse up to work with Zeitgeist. It can find files, execute commands on them, lotsa stuff.

tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

I agree at the terrible search tools in Linux

Probably not what you are looking for, but...

I use spaceFM which is the new release of pcmanfm-mod by ignorantguru.  spaceFM has a built in find file tool that is amazingly fast and once you find the files, you have right click options from that menu that is valuable...

It is an incredible upgrade from Thunar and Catfish, IMO

Great file manager but the search function is actully not much different from catfish. I may keep specefm though. Looks great.

VastOne

#! Ranger

From: #! Fringe Division

Registered: 2011-04-26

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Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

^ Really?  Do you mean it is slow or no functions?

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xaos52

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Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

@ el_k
I do not know those. Do they work acceptably in 512MB of RAM?

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tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Or install the mlocate package, run sudo updatedb, and use the locate command?

Is this cli? Looking for gui mainly.

Install Synapse and Zeitgeist, set Synapse up to work with Zeitgeist. It can find files, execute commands on them, lotsa stuff.

Looks cool but very strange program. Not at all what I am looking for. Looking for a simple search exactly like windows search.

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tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

^ Really?  Do you mean it is slow or no functions?

the only functions are 'open' or 'open file location'. I want to be able to select whatever file I want, look at its collective properties, copy, past, delete, even change views from detailed to icon just like in windows. Can't believe there's none out there.

damo

#! Die Hard

From: N51.5 W002.8 (mostly)

Registered: 2011-11-24

Posts: 653

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

I tried Recoll for a while (it's in the repositories) although I found it a bit heavyweight - much better than Catfish IMO, which I really dislike. Try Linux search tools for some comparisons

I've gone back to mlocate though

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tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Nice but again, as ALL the others. It won't let me copy/paste/delete from within the program.
Thanks anyway for the help y'all.

VastOne

#! Ranger

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Registered: 2011-04-26

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Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

^ I am talking with the developer of spaceFM now about adding these options to the RightClick menu options in File Search.  As soon as he responds, I will let you know..

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el_koraco

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From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

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Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

@ el_k
I do not know those. Do they work acceptably in 512MB of RAM?

You can squeeze them in. I'd be more worried about disk space, you'll have to pull in lots of Gnome deps. But they're really Ubuntu/Mac/Windows type applications.

elvaqueroloco

#! CrunchBanger

From: #! Rodeo bucking chute

Registered: 2012-03-25

Posts: 121

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Thank you @tedbell for starting this thread.  I have been meaning to ask if anyone knew of a file search engine with some of the features you mentioned.

Last edited by elvaqueroloco (2012-06-08 19:18:03)

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tedbell

#! Junkie

Registered: 2012-05-08

Posts: 311

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

^ I am talking with the developer of spaceFM now about adding these options to the RightClick menu options in File Search.  As soon as he responds, I will let you know..

Cool, thanks!
Always amazed at the support from the #! community!

paxmark1

#! CrunchBanger

From: Winnipeg, MB Canada

Registered: 2009-07-08

Posts: 114

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Once upon a time (2001) i wrote at /. that I loved FreeBSD but I wished there was an option to get bash and not csh automagically.  Someone replied calling me a whiny little salivator of a certain portion of one sex's flesh, wanting  a huge constructed gui.  But then as now I still like ncurses, not that I know how to program or anything, but to use.  Things break - KDE 3 to 4, G2 to G3, blah, blah. I just wanted to not have to go and hand-edit a text file for a reasonable choice every time I reinstalled.  ncurses seemed the proper tool.

Catfish has several annoyances and bugs.  Occasionally instead of searching ~ it will sidetrack onto my NAS.  More often than I want it will freeze up.  I should investigate if you can change the default folder to search (why not ~).  It is too tall but not wide enough to display a long "location".  etc. etc.

I quit KDE years ago because of the bloat but especially on the Ubuntu alpha discussions forum and my experience of the neepomuk files swelling to hundreds of millions of bytes and this not being looked at as a hideous bug that needed to be squashed  and evaporated.  Occasionally I see on forums that years later it is still alive. 

Gimp went to single-pane, Gnucash has the option now to allow databases and not just use html, the important things are getting there in gnu.  But for a small gui, the little windows xp search program is still a thing of exterior relative beauty, elegance and simplicity.  Nothing that small but simple in linux.

I hope for something  someday in ncurses and maybe also QT that will search as well as the aptitude ncurses front end searches and holds for package management. 

peace, mark

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el_koraco

#!/loony/bun

From: inside Ed

Registered: 2011-07-25

Posts: 4,654

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

But for a small gui, the little windows xp search program is still a thing of exterior relative beauty, elegance and simplicity.  Nothing that small but simple in linux.

Huh, it still uses Windows indexing, which is like Neopomuk, you (nobody) has a clue how it does the indexing and recording. So, Neopomuk/Zeitgeist with Krunner, Zeitgeist and Unity/Gnome Shell, there's even that Zeitgeist Activity Journal or something...

Strange how file indexing is seen as a feature in Windows and bloat in Linux. If the KDE guys said, look, this program can find your files and didn't mention Noepomuk and Akonadi, nobody would have complained.

NicePics13

#! Member

From: Finland

Registered: 2009-01-18

Posts: 63

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

searchmonkey can do these things and is in the repos.

h8uthemost

#! Junkie

Registered: 2011-08-09

Posts: 286

Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

Or install the mlocate package, run sudo updatedb, and use the locate command?

I've been wanting a Cli way to search so I'll give this a shot. Thanks xao.

Any (good)other Cli search engines out there?

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sunfizz98

Carbonated Orange Juice

From: su terminal

Registered: 2011-05-12

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Re: My kingdom for a decent local file search engine.

couldn't you just use find and grep?

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