LMDE - only "semi"-rolling release distribution ..

Lastcoder · 2012-04-27 10:26:42

Hi folks,

ah, that's the way Linux Mint Debian goes !

Frist they called [and still call] it officially a "rolling release distribution" (seen today):

Introduction to LMDE
Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) is a rolling distribution based on Debian Testing.
It is available in both 32 and 64-bit as a live DVD and features a Gnome and an Xfce edition.

http://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

but there http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1979 it's now "semi"-rolling

LMDE in brief
Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) is a semi-rolling distribution based on Debian Testing.
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3. What is a semi-rolling distribution?
Updates are constantly fed to Debian Testing, where users experience frequent regressions but also frequent bug fixes and improvements. LMDE receives “Update Packs” which are tested snapshots of Debian Testing. Users can experience a more stable system thanks to update packs, or switch their sources to follow Testing, or even Unstable, directly to get more frequent updates.

Will stay with Crunchbang ;-)

Greetz

LastCoder

Last edited by Lastcoder (2012-04-27 10:27:58)

el_koraco · 2012-04-27 11:08:23

From what I've seen on the web, LMDE is a trainwreck. In fact, as much as Debian is a whore distro (Awebb), I've only found #! and grml to be good derivatives, for everything else it's better to just stick with the original.

gutterslob · 2012-04-27 12:10:23

You could call pure Debian Sid/Unstable semi-rolling as well, tbh. Every couple of years, just before the next Stable Debian is released, Sid (and Testing) go into a sort of repo-freeze/ports-lock for a few months.

zalew · 2012-04-27 12:35:47

gutterslob wrote:

You could call pure Debian Sid/Unstable semi-rolling as well, tbh. Every couple of years, just before the next Stable Debian is released, Sid (and Testing) go into a sort of repo-freeze/ports-lock for a few months.

sid is not frozen, only testing, so only critical stuff from sid gets merged if needed.

Last edited by zalew (2012-04-27 12:37:43)

snowpine · 2012-04-27 13:05:32

Arch for the win!

gutterslob · 2012-04-27 14:11:04

zalew wrote:

gutterslob wrote:
You could call pure Debian Sid/Unstable semi-rolling as well, tbh. Every couple of years, just before the next Stable Debian is released, Sid (and Testing) go into a sort of repo-freeze/ports-lock for a few months.
sid is not frozen, only testing, so only critical stuff from sid gets merged if needed.

Yes, critical stuff does get pushed through from Git/Experimental to Sid if needed, but many packages don't. Remember the whole Ruby/Gems hoopla? LXappearance users also suffered for more than a month during the last freeze (just before Squeeze was released).

Last edited by gutterslob (2012-04-27 14:13:20)

ivanovnegro · 2012-04-27 17:18:39

LMDE receives “Update Packs” which are tested snapshots of Debian Testing.

That also makes it less rolling. I think before the actual update pack came in you had to wait months and then a hyper mega big upgrade, no wonders it can break everything into pieces. If you find the recent Ubuntu snapshots (not the LTS) unstable and experimental, this from LMDE is even worse.

Debian or die!

zalew · 2012-04-27 18:17:23

could anyone explain me the point of mint, what was that again? was it 'like ubuntu, but in green' with a taste of anti-israel yadda-yadda?

Last edited by zalew (2012-04-27 18:21:05)

ring32 · 2012-10-13 17:34:15

i see LMDE as a Cycle-rolling smile over 4 a 5 month rolling and even that some programs arent up to date.... not a weekly or dayly update isnt there, to work is a fine distro but if you want a maintained Repos then you musnt go to lmde, lmde has always with me with the update pack driven stable... but im now on Manjaro smile works fine too but ill see that lmde could use messer memory, but manjaro has fresh repository but missing some plugin and its weekjly en dayly maintained... why lmde? you could better look to Archbang smile

schwim · 2012-10-13 18:29:12

zalew wrote:

could anyone explain me the point of mint, what was that again? was it 'like ubuntu, but in green' with a taste of anti-israel yadda-yadda?

I thought that Mint's allure was that it had all the apps you would have to install on Ubuntu. Like Ubuntu+kitchen sink.

LMDE was the last distro I stayed with for any period of time. I liked it's stability and Mate was trouble-free, but I had issues with wireless in it.

Iranon · 2012-10-13 20:17:08

Most Mint editions are rather polished Ubuntu derivatives, with proprietary stuff preinstalled to offer a good out-of-the-box experience and staying away from some of Canonical's commercial experiments. Good newbie distros in my opinion.

LMDE is their odd version, built on Debian testing with some modifications aiming to keep things from breaking. This makes sense in theory - Debian's rolling branches suffer from being development versions of their true release, rather than genuine attempts to strike the best balance between freshness and stability.
The problem is that Mint doesn't have the manpower of Debian proper, so it's questionable whether the experience is any more troublefree than Debian Testing.

I think Mint has been getting worse since starting Cinnamon, I'd like to see them back to making polished assemblies from standard parts.

CrunchBang Linux

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