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#1 2012-03-02 07:26:57

fortyseven
#! Die Hard
From: Sector 7G
Registered: 2011-12-23
Posts: 514

What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

Let's be honest, we don't live a perfect existence although browsing through these forums (and others), one couldn't be blamed for getting the opposite impression. When we love something or hold it dear, we tend to not want to admit or give credence the bad; we rather focus on the good, possibly to make us feel better about ourselves and the choices we've made. Look at the introductions thread and you'll be hard pressed to find someone saying something negative; most sing #!'s praises et al.

Now I'm not picking on #! per se, I'm just using it as an example but is there anything about #! or linux in general that you think needs improvement? What about #!/ linux do you not like?


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#2 2012-03-02 08:11:16

Erinsfan
#! CrunchBanger
From: At a terminal
Registered: 2011-01-28
Posts: 148

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

GNOME dependancies is a niggle. I like !# and Debian a great deal. My only real complaint about Linux and distros in general is the lack or poor quality documentation. That said, all my PCs run !#.


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#3 2012-03-02 09:02:57

rhowaldt
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Registered: 2011-03-09
Posts: 4,396

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

good thread fortyseven. indeed, let's be honest.
the only thing i don't like about #! are GNOME dependencies, like Erinsfan said. but that's more a matter of personal preference than a true 'design flaw' or something. i dislike bloat, and feel that's exactly what GNOME is.

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#4 2012-03-02 09:18:01

cJones
#! Junkie
From: Oregon
Registered: 2012-02-21
Posts: 447

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

I'm no linux expert so I don't notice things like "gnome dependencies" so I can honestly say that other than the fact that DeaDBeeF didn't come in the repos (my favorite music player) I have no complaints about #! (and installing deadbeef was the easiest thing ever so it's not like that matters)...also I have only been using #! for a little over two weeks now so another variable for why I don't have complaints might be that I just haven't found them yet big_smile


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#5 2012-03-02 09:22:34

rockon1215
Member
From: Florida
Registered: 2009-05-30
Posts: 39

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

Audio. Dealing with multiple audio outputs is annoying/impossible

To switch between my USB headset and my speakers plugged into the onboard audio I have to install pulse and pavucontrol

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#6 2012-03-02 10:22:15

kd5ob
#! CrunchBanger
From: Oklahoma
Registered: 2012-02-02
Posts: 208

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

I find the install CD perfect for my dell laptop.  The Broadcom wireless worked right out of the box without having to do anything.
Even Ubuntu makes you push a button.  Not with Crunchbang!  And the system works flawlessly so far.  I can't seem to find anything wrong with it technically.  It's heart and soul stable debian.

The only bitch I have isn't an error but a feature I wished they did for the openbox menus.  I wanted a submenu which gave you the debian menu's you found in xfce.  Currently, if you install a debian program it doesn't automatically update in the openbox menus because they designed it that way.  You have to roll you own menus.  Again, not an error or bug, just a design decision on their part.

Don't know if you can call that a complaint but it's a request I suppose...  And eventually, I hope they offer more wallpapers and themes built in for the openbox,which I believe their working on.  that is built into a .deb package for the lazy like me.

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#7 2012-03-02 10:24:50

fratermus
#! CrunchBanger
From: 75081, USA
Registered: 2012-01-20
Posts: 149
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Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

#! is exceedingly close to perfect for my needs.    If I had to pick something to whine about, I'd say Thunar as a default file mangler.  Any mangler that refuses to let the user configure out of Trash bin functionality is "eevil, as in fru-its of the deh-ville".  My wife's MP3 player kept running out of space last year and it took me a while to figure out why. 

Normally I remove it and replace with another (usually pcmanfm) but I am keeping Thunar for a bit so I can try to understand what features it has that makes it indispensable.


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new to crunchbang.
my first linux kernel build was on a 386-16sx with 6MB SIPP RAM ($50/MB!)

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#8 2012-03-02 18:29:12

sunfizz98
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From: su terminal
Registered: 2011-05-12
Posts: 1,876
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Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

no #! lite iso with mainly terminal apps.

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#9 2012-03-02 18:53:27

barkbombardier
#! Member
Registered: 2011-09-07
Posts: 77

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

It won't slice,dice,julienne,,fry,bake or trim nose hair....

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#10 2012-03-02 19:05:48

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,416

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

^ mine does when I pair it with my arduino wink

In all seriousness tho...
Dual head took me about 15 min to set up an make persistent with xrandr.
That's about it.  Everything else just "ran" when I installed it from synaptic.

-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#11 2012-03-02 19:27:03

xeNULL
#! Pirate
From: The Internet
Registered: 2011-01-23
Posts: 811

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

sunfizz98 wrote:

no #! lite iso with mainly terminal apps.

I agree sunfizz!

The problem I have is with gaming companies and that commercial games are not released (to buy) for linux but  on to #!.  I see many peoples screenshots and see a lot of CLI apps though #! does not come with a full set of CLI apps instead it has mostly GUI I know it could be said that installing them yourself is easy but the same could be said for the GUI apps. This is not a huge thing I even did a small CLI installation script to tackle this though I am still a loyal user and I have always preferred it over any other distro.


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#12 2012-03-02 19:31:46

BoredOOMM
#! Junkie
From: 36.0718,-119.03519
Registered: 2011-06-19
Posts: 353

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

I personally dislike all the dark themes.  Some nights the dark is ok, others it is difficult for the biofocals to scan effectively.

The new gray theme of Mint Lisa 12 reminds me that I like #! because it is NOT Gnome3. big_smile


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#13 2012-03-02 19:42:32

VastOne
#! Ranger
From: V-Ger
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 10,163
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Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

No tuna sandwiches yet...


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#14 2012-03-23 12:03:54

vicshrike
#! by Default
From: /grill
Registered: 2009-02-13
Posts: 3,118

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

I can not think of anything that I do not like about #!. Sure there are always things that occur, or problems to be solved. But what I don`t like? It is more me that is a problem, too lazy or too stupid to learn and improve, can not blame #! for that! About Linux then, well what I think is annoying are all the different package managements, I have now solved this by staying with Debian or so based distros. Can not even be put off by all these modern colorful busy DEs in Linux, there are alternatives, and "easy" enough to do a net install and make whatever is desired. There is so much to choose from that it is really hard to get completely stuck. Just my 2 cents.


#!, all else is but a shadow.

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#15 2012-03-23 12:07:26

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,416

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

It would be nice if there was a configurator/borker script that could ask you, on installation/first run, if you want to track, default (stable), testing, or sid.  That would be cool.
-Hinto


"Sometimes I wish I hadn't taken the red pill" -Me

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#16 2012-03-23 12:15:09

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,923

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

hinto wrote:

It would be nice if there was a configurator/borker script that could ask you, on installation/first run, if you want to track, default (stable), testing, or sid.  That would be cool.
-Hinto

I have been suggesting for a while the inclusion of smxi script. smile


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#17 2012-03-23 12:18:06

vicshrike
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From: /grill
Registered: 2009-02-13
Posts: 3,118

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

Cool idea indeed,+1 button pushed.


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#18 2012-03-23 12:21:06

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,416

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

@snowpie smxi doesn't do it for you.
I use smxi, too.  Been a fan since the Kanotix days when it tracked SID.
I think I'd given up long ago on linux if it weren't for smxi (and the members of the original Kanotix dev team).
-H


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#19 2012-03-23 12:36:09

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,923

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

It's been a long time since I used smxi, maybe my memory is fading... I seem to recall on first run it asked me questions about stable/testing/unstable/backports/nonfree/kernel/mirrors, etc.?

Anyway smxi has a lot of other cool features too. smile


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#20 2012-03-23 12:45:15

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,416

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

^yeah.. it does ask you... but that's just a preference/FYI thing.  It doesn't change your sources.
-H


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#21 2012-03-23 12:53:35

snowpine
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Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,923

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

Ah OK, I misunderstood the feature. smile

(although I maintain that if you're smart enough to run sid then you should be able to figure out how to change 1 word in 1 file wink)


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#22 2012-03-23 14:01:15

vicshrike
#! by Default
From: /grill
Registered: 2009-02-13
Posts: 3,118

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

...and a lot of people who really should stay on stable will go trying testing/sid, and end up with a #!
But the idea is  very cool though.


#!, all else is but a shadow.

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#23 2012-03-23 14:06:55

hinto
#! Windbag
From: Cary, NC
Registered: 2010-12-08
Posts: 1,416

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

^hmmmm I was a newbie and picked sid 9 years ago.  I needed a 64 bit OS.
-H

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#24 2012-03-23 14:50:56

VastOne
#! Ranger
From: V-Ger
Registered: 2011-04-26
Posts: 10,163
Website

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

^ Sid is underrated and overhyped as the killer of small kittens... smile

hinto - The Legend Of Sid .. nice sound to it, gonna have to break out a guitar and write something to that one...


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#25 2012-03-23 14:56:05

snowpine
#!-a-roo
Registered: 2008-11-24
Posts: 2,923

Re: What Don't You Like About Crunchbang/Linux?

Debian Stable is Stable Stable, Testing is Stable Testing, Sid is Unstable Stable, and Experimental is Unstable Testing. In my opinion. wink


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