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#1 2011-12-01 06:39:11

jelloir
#! CrunchBanger
From: Outside the garden wall
Registered: 2009-08-21
Posts: 212

Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Hi Everyone,

For some time I have been creating a guide on installing Debian Sid using Openbox as the window manager of choice.  It started as something to help me collect and remember things I had learnt but over time it made sense to make it public and write it as a guide.

Debian Sid Desktop - Openbox

I would like to stress that it is unfinished and will contain mistakes and items that need adding, removing or updating.

I tend to add and remove things as time goes by, partly due to how things change in Sid anyway.

If anyone would like to provide feedback, good or bad please feel free and if you have any contributions to it then let me know.

Disclosure:  I took the mediawiki templates from the Arch Wiki.  Information is from various sources and I will add references to these at some point in the future.

Thanks

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#2 2011-12-01 06:46:04

machinebacon
#! unstable
From: China
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,634
Website

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Hi jelloir,

this is one of the few pages I put into my bookmarks. Haven't read through it all, but on first sight it has everything inside to get up and running. Thanks for sharing. If you wish to add information about the Input Methods (eg. East Asian languages) and the display of these fonts, I can write you something about it.

Best wishes

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#3 2011-12-01 07:58:53

jelloir
#! CrunchBanger
From: Outside the garden wall
Registered: 2009-08-21
Posts: 212

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

machinebacon wrote:

If you wish to add information about the Input Methods (eg. East Asian languages) and the display of these fonts, I can write you something about it.

Very happy to add it smile

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#4 2011-12-01 08:03:30

Milozzy
#! Die Hard
Registered: 2011-02-22
Posts: 622
Website

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Wow!! Really a great and interesting guide!!

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#5 2011-12-01 08:28:03

machinebacon
#! unstable
From: China
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,634
Website

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Briefly:

by default, Asian characters are not displayed.
The easiest and most lightweight solution for Chinese Simplified is adding one or both "WenQuanYi" sans serif fonts:

apt-get install ttf-wqy-zenhei
apt-get install ttf-wqy-microhei

A bit larger in filesize are Arphic:

apt-get install ttf-arphic-uming
apt-get install ttf-arphic-ukai

Japanese has these and some more:

apt-get install ttf-vlgothic
apt-get install ttf-sazanami-mincho 
apt-get install ttf-sazanami-gothic

I recommend apt-cache search ttf japanese and try some.

Korean can be added with

apt-get install ttf-unfonts-core

I don't speak Korean, so once again apt-cache search korean fonts brings up a list, though unfonts seems to be a kind of standard.

The preferred input method application is ibus, we get it with

apt-get install ibus ibus-gtk im-config

This doesn't bring much without the (keyboard) input method itself, this is depending on the language:
Chinese pinyin input (most commonly used)

apt-get install ibus-pinyin

Anthy (Japanese)

apt-get install ibus-anthy

Hangul (korean)

apt-get install ibus-hangul

There are many other input methods for tables, they are too many to mention:

apt-cache search ibus-table

After installing, iBus will run as daemon and reside in the systray. We start it with ibus-daemon and configure it:
- right-click the icon, choose Properties
- in the tab labelled "Input Method" we select the input method(s) and click on "Add" to add them, one after the other.
- after closing the window, we need to log out and back to make iBus work.

The daemon needs to be added to the ~/.config/openbox/autostart if not started automatically

ibus-daemon &

In the past, there was another input method called SCIM. It is still available, though its configuration is not as easy as iBus. Personally, I prefer iBus as it doesn't need maintenance. smile

Last edited by machinebacon (2011-12-01 08:29:23)

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#6 2011-12-01 09:07:27

jelloir
#! CrunchBanger
From: Outside the garden wall
Registered: 2009-08-21
Posts: 212

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

@machinebacon, thanks!  I have added this to the Openbox Installation section.

I will work away at formatting the guide when time allows so it's location will probably change in future.

I am going to update the guide with Console based alternatives to the GUI based apps I am suggesting for those people who really want to go CLI.

Lately, pretty much the only GTK app I run is Iceweasel and I'm feeling really comfortable with it.

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#7 2011-12-01 09:12:06

machinebacon
#! unstable
From: China
Registered: 2009-07-02
Posts: 6,634
Website

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

May I recommend xxxterm as comparably light browser alternative? It's from the ScrotWM guys, a bit more full-featured than conkeror or uzbl, but slimmer than the weasel and more stable than midori.

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#8 2011-12-01 14:40:20

vicshrike
#! by Default
From: /grill
Registered: 2009-02-13
Posts: 3,060

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Great stuff jelloir, admit that Sid is not for me, but many thanks for sharing!


#!, all else is but a shadow.

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#9 2011-12-01 19:29:40

ivanovnegro
Ivan #000000
From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,427

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

@baconmacon: Thanks for the Korean fonts. At least you know all the needed Asian stuff. smile

After installing Debian, one of the first things is to install the Asian fonts, I do not speak any of the Eastern Asian languages but I have Chinese friends, so that is important for our university work as they have access to one of my machines.

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#10 2011-12-01 20:52:54

Anakinholland
#! CrunchBanger
Registered: 2011-11-30
Posts: 210

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Thank you very much for this!! yikes

I will definitely give this a try, will be a meaningful experience! smile

Anakin


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#11 2011-12-01 21:53:13

dubois
The Old Codger
Registered: 2010-09-03
Posts: 2,238

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

Impressive is a word I rarely use but will this time.  Updating to either Debian Sid or Openbox is not on my to do list but if it was your HOW TO would insure that I got there with all my questions answered.

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#12 2011-12-01 22:14:49

ivanovnegro
Ivan #000000
From: unstable madness
Registered: 2011-06-02
Posts: 5,427

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

^ Do it, do it. big_smile

No, I thought you were planning something like this.

@jelloir: Impressive article. I had a look now at it. Some people are really talented.

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#13 2011-12-11 10:18:21

jelloir
#! CrunchBanger
From: Outside the garden wall
Registered: 2009-08-21
Posts: 212

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

I have made some updates to the Install Process section with a quick run through of the business card installer and additions to the rxvt-unicode section.

Thanks for the feedback and comments - appreciate it.

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#14 2013-04-11 17:23:04

gychang
#! Junkie
From: Phoenix, AZ
Registered: 2009-04-01
Posts: 274

Re: Debian Sid Openbox Based Desktop Guide

thank you, good guide.

machinebacon wrote:

Briefly:

by default, Asian characters are not displayed.
The easiest and most lightweight solution for Chinese Simplified is adding one or both "WenQuanYi" sans serif fonts:

apt-get install ttf-wqy-zenhei
apt-get install ttf-wqy-microhei

A bit larger in filesize are Arphic:

apt-get install ttf-arphic-uming
apt-get install ttf-arphic-ukai

Japanese has these and some more:

apt-get install ttf-vlgothic
apt-get install ttf-sazanami-mincho 
apt-get install ttf-sazanami-gothic

I recommend apt-cache search ttf japanese and try some.

Korean can be added with

apt-get install ttf-unfonts-core

I don't speak Korean, so once again apt-cache search korean fonts brings up a list, though unfonts seems to be a kind of standard.

The preferred input method application is ibus, we get it with

apt-get install ibus ibus-gtk im-config

This doesn't bring much without the (keyboard) input method itself, this is depending on the language:
Chinese pinyin input (most commonly used)

apt-get install ibus-pinyin

Anthy (Japanese)

apt-get install ibus-anthy

Hangul (korean)

apt-get install ibus-hangul

There are many other input methods for tables, they are too many to mention:

apt-cache search ibus-table

After installing, iBus will run as daemon and reside in the systray. We start it with ibus-daemon and configure it:
- right-click the icon, choose Properties
- in the tab labelled "Input Method" we select the input method(s) and click on "Add" to add them, one after the other.
- after closing the window, we need to log out and back to make iBus work.

The daemon needs to be added to the ~/.config/openbox/autostart if not started automatically

ibus-daemon &

In the past, there was another input method called SCIM. It is still available, though its configuration is not as easy as iBus. Personally, I prefer iBus as it doesn't need maintenance. smile

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