Thunar and copying

h8uthemost · 2011-09-12 04:46:28

Has anyone ran across the problem where Thunar won't copy folders at the first attempt? All of a sudden Thunar(1.0.2-1+b2) started this behavior and it's become really annoying. When I right-click on a folder and hit Copy/Cut Thunar doesn't copy/cut the folder. I have to click the action a second time on a folder between Thunar performs it.

I'm hoping someone has come across and knows a fix. I could find any Thunar forums so I thought here would be the next best place to ask.

Thanks.

rich · 2011-09-12 07:04:22

I actually did have a problem with Thunar a while back. I copied a load of files to a backup partition, and then (stupidly) deleted the originals. When I opened the backup partition they were gone.

As far as I know, to keep Thunar refreshed you need gamin installed and gam_server running. Also, have you still got "$ thunar --daemon &" in your .config/openbox/autostart.sh ?

Last edited by rich (2011-09-12 09:27:28)

h8uthemost · 2011-09-12 08:21:51

Yeah, still have that in my autostart. And I'll look into this gamin thing, but I'm certainly not keen on installing something just to get the copy/cut function to work properly in Thunar. Something it was doing just fine up to a few days ago.

I instead went ahead and installed PCManFM. And I remember hating this file manager back when I used Lubuntu, but I must have been using a pretty old version because the one in Debian Stables repos is pretty great. I'm not noticing any of the bugs that I used to put up with. Plus it's great to have tabbed browsing again in a file manager.

If this thing with Thunar doesn't work itself out and PCManFM continues to behave as smoothly as it is now then I'll probably just switch as they both feel light and fast.

rich · 2011-09-12 09:27:09

Sometimes we need a negative to get a positive eh? I may have a look at PCManFM myself, if you say the new version is better, and tabbed browsing would be nice.

Before I found Crunchbang and openbox, I was a staunch Fluxbox user and used the lightweight Xfm file manager. It was quite good and had a lot of features, but I kind of got used to Thunar.

EDIT: Ok, just installed it, very nice. Thanks for the suggestion h8uthemost, i'll give it a test-run this week.

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h8uthemost · 2011-09-12 10:18:24

No problem. I'm glad you're digging it so far. I'm thinking of trying out emelfm2 as well. Kinda dig that double pane thing. Hopefully it's just as light and fast as Thunar/PCManFM.

And yeah, if I start having trouble with PCManFM and switch back to Thunar then I'll do the suggestions you gave to hopefully solve this copying things. It sucks having to hit everything twice for it to work.

Thanks for the help.

h8uthemost · 2011-09-14 17:36:24

Just found out that Cut isn't working for me in PCManFM either. Copy does, but when I go to Cut it copies instead. Weird. Ctrl-X/C cuts/copies just fine, but doesn't work as it should through the right-click menu. Looks like something is messed up on my end.

KapitaenM · 2011-10-01 01:21:50

I'd have to say I was affected as well, it has something to do with Parcellite.

Untick the "Use Copy" checkbox under the program's preferences, to essentially disable it. Or exit.
Suddenly there's no conflict going on as to whether something is copied or not.

Try ClipIt if you want a replacement, it has yet to cause an issue. Honestly, it's the same thing.

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h8uthemost · 2011-10-01 03:17:39

Wow KapitaenM, you're right! After unticking the Use Copy option in Parcellite Thunar copies just fine on the first take.

Unfortunately I don't see anything for ClipIt in the repos. And I'm not the best at installing apps from a .tar. Hopefully I can find a .deb for it, or any other clipboard manager. Because thanks to Crunchbang, I've gotten really used to having a clipboard manager constantly running.

Anyways, thanks so much for shedding some light on this. This was driving me crazy.

EDIT: Come to think of it, this problem didn't start happening until I updated Parcellite. Thunar was copying just fine when I was using the version of Parcellite that came with Crunchbang. If I can't find an easy way to install another clipboard manager then I'll have to find out what older version of Parcellite I was using and try to roll back to it.

EDIT AGAIN: Ok, I just updated to the latest Parcellite. Which is 1.0.2rc5. And the problem seems to be fixed. I have Use Copy enabled, and Thunar is copying items on the first go. This is the note for the Parcellite changes in this update:

V1.0.2rc5 Friday, September 9 2011
Changes
+Fixed the primary deselect and file cut/paste issue.
This is my second attempt to fix the ‘primary de-select/copy files twice’ problem. Somehow I had the fixed version on my box and released something else.

I've tried copying things many times in Thunar, and each and everytime it worked on the first shot. So if you want to go back to using Parcellite then just update to this version. The .deb is on the site.

Anyways, thanks again for bringing this to my attention. Wonder why it affected Thunar and not PCManFM? Nevertheless, it's going to be nice to be able to use Thunar again. Now only if the devs would implement a dual pane view, or tabs, I would be able to get rid of PCManFM altogether.

Last edited by h8uthemost (2011-10-01 04:02:21)

johnraff · 2011-10-01 04:08:33

^Ah that would be why I'm having no trouble here. My parcellite is ver. 0.9.2-1 which came by default in Statler. It's in the Squeeze repository.

btw agreed - I'd love a Thunar with a 2-pane view option smile

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machinebacon · 2011-10-01 04:57:39

I can confirm the Parcellite behaviour for version 1.0.2~rc3-1 in unstable running in XFCE4.8/Thunar 1.2.3-1.

PcManFM 0.9xxx copypastes fine, no matter which clipboard manager runs.

Alternatively, I'm using Clipman (that's XFCE default, uninteresting for those who didn't install multisession) now, and it works perfectly.

Conclusion: take the newest (as h8uthemost quoted) version, not that in the testing/unstable repos (as of Oct 1, 2011)

Last edited by machinebacon (2011-10-02 01:13:20)

dubois · 2011-10-01 13:01:27

^ I'm running a stable system and can confirm that xfce4-clipman in the Statler repos works just fine with Thunar. [of course it would] Matter of fact I didn't know there was anything else available until I read this thread so didn't know I may be missing anything or have other options available.

jeffreyC · 2011-10-01 14:52:09

Clipit is a bug fixed and improved fork of parcellite which has been added to the Debian repos after Squeeze went stable.
It is in the Wheezy repos.
I find it to be an improvement over parcellite.
No need to install from a source tarball, download the deb and install it with gdebi or dpkg -i

johnraff · 2011-10-01 17:16:20

machinebacon wrote:

Conclusion: take the newest (as johnraff quoted) version, not that in the repos (squ/whe/sid)

Er, actually the other way round - my working version is the oldest , from the squeeze repos. It seems to be the intermediate versions that mess up. (Clipit looks interesting though.)

h8uthemost · 2011-10-01 20:08:00

I actually discovered Clipman last night. I didn't know there was any other clipboard managers in the Stable repos(besides Glipper, that comes with about a hundred dependencies, how pathetic for a clipboard manager). I might actually stay with Clipman. Parcellite under Openbox has a weird behavior sometimes when you click on it. It will flash real quick and not open. So I'll have to click on it once more, or maybe twice more to get it to actually open. Clipman doesn't have this behavior. Although I will miss Parcellites hot keys. Wish Clipman had that...

machinebacon · 2011-10-02 01:12:13

johnraff wrote:

machinebacon wrote:
Conclusion: take the newest (as johnraff quoted) version, not that in the repos (squ/whe/sid)
Er, actually the other way round - my working version is the oldest , from the squeeze repos. It seems to be the intermediate versions that mess up. (Clipit looks interesting though.)

Oooh you're right, I have quoted the wrong guy smile I meant h8uthemost's 'newest version. Sorry Mr Raffles! big_smile I'll edit my previous post.

So conclusion: either oldest version from Squeeze or the newest version from the project website, or clipman.

jeffreyC · 2011-10-02 02:49:18

I must apologize, the current version of clipit has dependencies which cannot be met in Debian Squeeze.
However I did find earlier versions of clipit at ;

http://snapshot.debian.org/

h8uthemost · 2011-10-02 03:32:14

Thanks, jeffrey. Looks like 1.3.11-1 is the latest that won't give any dependency problems when trying to install.

Think I might stick with this one. It has hot keys like Parcellite, but unlike Parcellite it doesn't give me the issue that I described above.

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