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#1 2010-11-21 13:05:41

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[Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Ummm is this black background with white text a permanent change?

Radical change for me - hard on my eyes.

Solved - See:

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/92894/#p92894

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/92900/#p92900

http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/92907/#p92907

UPDATED Script: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/92959/#p92959
Another update: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/93041/#p93041

Thanks Tunafish

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#2 2010-11-21 13:18:31

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Have a look at this thread: New Website Design



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#3 2010-11-21 14:57:21

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

I hope they switch it, my eyes literally hurt from being on this site. There's a reason we don't write on black paper with soap stone IRL.


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#4 2010-11-21 15:08:35

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

^ yup, it's because some idiot decided long ago that bleached wood fibers looked better than natural.  Frankly I think everyone who agreed with that must have been stoned...or lost too many ganglia from breathing bleach fumes...

I think that forum members should have the option to change this though.  Maybe have foreground/background colors selectable in the user profile?


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#5 2010-11-21 15:26:15

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

pvsage wrote:

^ yup, it's because some idiot decided long ago that bleached wood fibers looked better than natural.

lol

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#6 2010-11-21 15:37:12

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

My eyes are watering and straining just reading this thread alopne.  sad

No way I could spend any amount time on #! if this stays.  sad

Sorry, I won't ruin my eyes for the forum

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#7 2010-11-21 15:55:17

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

This may be a short-term fix - consider it more of a "kludge" than a "patch" - but it should help make the new CrunchBang forums more palatable to your eyes:
http://userstyles.org/styles/24998
EDIT:  Frankly I find black text on white pages blinding, the way snow causes temporary bleaching of rod cells in bright sunlight.

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#8 2010-11-21 16:04:44

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

corenominal wrote:
pvsage wrote:

^ yup, it's because some idiot decided long ago that bleached wood fibers looked better than natural.

lol

Actually I think this might have to do with people trying to read dim graphite scratchings and India ink stains in limited candlelight.  Today we have more options.

I agree that the forum looks like it would be almost unreadable in direct sunlight...


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#9 2010-11-21 16:25:20

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

pvsage wrote:

This may be a short-term fix - consider it more of a "kludge" than a "patch" - but it should help make the new CrunchBang forums more palatable to your eyes:
http://userstyles.org/styles/24998
EDIT:  Frankly I find black text on white pages blinding, the way snow causes temporary bleaching of rod cells in bright sunlight.

I'm not sure how that helps... but I notice that the "editor" has black text on white background.

Books .... black ink on a white/cream coloured background.

It's not my forum, I have no option but I'll be here for support only!


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#10 2010-11-21 16:27:52

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

I've problems reading the white on black forums as well. The whitify userstyle is helpful. I started editing the userstyle so it will keep the header etc blackish. I thought this would be easy, but it's a lot of work to do it right. Here's the code i have now, but it's far from perfect...
But at least it only changes your crunchbang page and the header remains blackish.

http://userstyles.org/styles/40195

You need the Firefox/Iceweasel Stylish Addon to use this!

Tuna.

Edit: I posted the userstyle on userstyles.org:
http://userstyles.org/styles/40195
If anyone has suggestions please let me know, i'll improve the userstyle.

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#11 2010-11-21 16:44:46

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

@ pvsage & Tunafish

THANK YOU!

Actually I like the colours you have - works even in the "Editor" and easier on the eyes than the pure white.

I like the rest being dark, in fact it's a nice contrast.  And fits with what someone said a long time ago "Welcome to the dark side.

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#12 2010-11-21 16:47:27

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

I can't get used to this, I think it might be the fact that it's off-black but I'd rather just go back to white background with black text. Puh-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUH!


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#13 2010-11-21 16:55:08

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

CrunchyFree wrote:

I can't get used to this, I think it might be the fact that it's off-black but I'd rather just go back to white background with black text. Puh-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZUH!

See these....
pvsage
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/92894/#p92894

tunafish
http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/post/92900/#p92900

and apply - kinda nice  smile

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This is can live with very nicely - better than white!

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#14 2010-11-21 16:58:18

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Tunafish wrote:

I've problems reading the white on black forums as well.

So where does one find all the commands available for that little plugin?

Can it be used on "multiple sites?

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);
@-moz-document domain(crunchbanglinux.org), domain(www.crunchbanglinux.org)
@-moz-document domain(someother.com), domain(www.someother.com) {
{snip}

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#15 2010-11-21 17:16:39

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Sector11 wrote:
Tunafish wrote:

I've problems reading the white on black forums as well.

So where does one find all the commands available for that little plugin?

Can it be used on "multiple sites?

@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);
@-moz-document domain(crunchbanglinux.org), domain(www.crunchbanglinux.org)
@-moz-document domain(someother.com), domain(www.someother.com) {
{snip}

S11

The 'commands' are common css style (Cascading Style Sheet)
If you want to see more examples, go to userstyles.org and have a look at the codes of some of the styles... for example: http://userstyles.org/styles/27249 shows you the way to add more domains.

Enjoy,
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#16 2010-11-21 17:24:17

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Tunafish wrote:

The 'commands' are common css style (Cascading Style Sheet)
If you want to see more examples, go to userstyles.org and have a look at the codes of some of the styles... for example: http://userstyles.org/styles/27249 shows you the way to add more domains.

Enjoy,
Tuna

EDIT: {blush} Thanks for the link!

Great CSS - something else to learn!  smile
I'm getting too old for this ... that's why there are copy/paste/edit functions in text editors/colour pickers.

Maybe there should be a new thread: "Customize IW/FF Colours" or "Customize IW/FF Colors" if started by someone from the US. cool

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#17 2010-11-21 18:26:46

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Sector11 wrote:

Books .... black ink on a white/cream coloured background.

Sure, but remember books - both typeset and hand-written - have been around much longer than the electric light; before Nikola and Thomas figured out how to apply electricity to practical use, most of us still read by candlelight.  (I remember it like it was yesterday... lol )  Black text on white paper came about to make the most of limited illumination.

I'm glad Tunafish's solution worked for you. cool


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#18 2010-11-21 18:37:45

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

pvsage wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

Books .... black ink on a white/cream coloured background.

Sure, but remember books - both typeset and hand-written - have been around much longer than the electric light; before Nikola and Thomas figured out how to apply electricity to practical use, most of us still read by candlelight.  (I remember it like it was yesterday... lol )  Black text on white paper came about to make the most of limited illumination.

I'm glad Tunafish's solution worked for you. cool

Hey, I'm old, but not that old.  lol

I do remember reading by flashlight under the covers and gas lanterns while camping though!

And it was you that pointed out the site  ... Tuna supplied the nice colours.  smile

Don't tell tunafish but I remember when "Starkist" didn't want tuna with good taste, they wanted tuna that tasted good!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaU5I_UQbXQ
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#19 2010-11-21 21:27:49

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Sector11 wrote:

Don't tell tunafish but I remember when "Starkist" didn't want tuna with good taste, they wanted tuna that tasted good!

WHAT? I did hear you!

BTW: I posted the userstyle on userstyle.org:
http://userstyles.org/styles/40195
It's updated and now shows links underlined as well...

And another update: colors for online/offline status and new/closed posts are fixed.

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#20 2010-11-22 11:44:28

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Tunafish wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

Don't tell tunafish but I remember when "Starkist" didn't want tuna with good taste, they wanted tuna that tasted good!

WHAT? I did hear you!

BTW: I posted the userstyle on userstyle.org:
http://userstyles.org/styles/40195
It's updated and now shows links underlined as well...

And another update: colors for online/offline status and new/closed posts are fixed.

It let's me install it in Greasemonkey, much better!

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#21 2010-11-22 13:47:58

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Tunafish wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

Don't tell tunafish but I remember when "Starkist" didn't want tuna with good taste, they wanted tuna that tasted good!

WHAT? I did hear you!

Well, I did say it was "StarKist" - me, I prefer tuna with good taste and intelligence.  roll

Tunafish wrote:

BTW: I posted the userstyle on userstyle.org:
http://userstyles.org/styles/40195
It's updated and now shows links underlined as well...

And another update: colors for online/offline status and new/closed posts are fixed.

WoW!  That's GREAT!  That ... no ... excuse me, since it's plugged in;

This should be one of the "Official Non-Official #! Forum Options"

This script is definitely in good taste!


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#22 2010-11-22 15:01:28

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Sector11 wrote:

This script is definitely in good taste!

Thanks, if you have suggestions to improve it, please tell me...


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#23 2010-11-22 15:34:01

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Tunafish wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

This script is definitely in good taste!

Thanks, if you have suggestions to improve it, please tell me...

I can only think of two things (which) might be one fix for both, I don't know ...

The Quote and Codes blocks  - can they be made to show up.  Using Midori I see:

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#24 2010-11-22 15:38:11

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Sector11 wrote:

me, I prefer tuna with good taste and intelligence.  roll

So Charlie is still SOL, huh? lol  That tuna always struck me as a dim bulb.


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#25 2010-11-22 15:47:36

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Re: [Evolving] 20-21 Nov 2010 switch (The Dark Side)

Sector11 wrote:

The Quote and Codes blocks  - can they be made to show up.

codebox

Done smile

http://userstyles.org/styles/40195


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