I am actually running #! Karmic on a spare computer, but I did it by installing 9.04 first, then upgrading to 9.10. (sudo do-release-upgrade -d) Obviously this is completely unsupported and might break.

Heh, I broke something. I think I wasn't supposed to do that in the GUI. I had to shutdown the computer mid install and broked some stuff. Can't even get the oB menu. Oh well, it was a fresh install anyway. I just keep jumping install ships. I'll try it again later from cli.

iggykoopa wrote:

You can run it with Karmic like snowpipe said, but I did it the opposite way. I installed Karmic then ran the 9.04 install script, still works but it's probably better to do it snowpipes way.
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That answers my question on how to run #! Karmic.  What I'd like to know is why you think snowpipe's way is probably better?  I want to try this myself.

I actually think Iggy's way is better. Ubuntu does give you the tools to upgrade from one release to another, but it is not recommended--the official stance is that you should do a fresh install every 6 months. A fresh install would also allow you to easily take advantage of the new ext4 filesystem, if that is important to you.

However I am attached to my 8.10 setup so I think I'm going to just keep upgrading as long as I can. It is really just a spare computer that I use for experimenting.

You can run it with Karmic like snowpipe said, but I did it the opposite way. I installed Karmic then ran the 9.04 install script, still works but it's probably better to do it snowpipes way.
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That answers my question on how to run #! Karmic.  What I'd like to know is why you think snowpipe's way is probably better?  I want to try this myself.

Also I think core is the only one working on it because it started as a pet project of his, The distro has grown rapidly in such a short time that I don't think the community has really figured out how to go about helping core in the best way. We do what we can, making unofficial releases and app's to help out the community, but nothing really official has been worked on as far as assisting in the actual distro releases.

michael.h4lios wrote:

Is Corenominal the only guy working on this stuff?

Yup.

Why!? He needs help.

Is Corenominal the only guy working on this stuff?

Yup.

I think* the alternate CD can let you do a command-line installation of Karmic Koala. Then you can just install xorg, openbox, etc.

If you've never done a minimal install before, this guide may help:

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal

*If Im wrong you can still just install Karmic and then install Openbox afterwards.

Thanks for the tips, anon.

You too, snowpine.

There is no 9.10 Karmic version of #! yet. Corenomial is still putting the finishing touches on the 9.04 release. I would not expect #! 9.10 until October at the earliest.

You can install #! over a minimal (or full, though it's not officially recommended) Ubuntu install by using the correct version of the script:

8.04: http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/dow … ion_method
8.10: http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/dow … on_methods
9.04 Testing: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … hbang-904/

Cool, thanks for the info. I've been using the 9.04 unofficial release I found here lately. When I used 8.10 I found out that I was using an old version of the kernel that didn't support my wireless OR ethernet controllers (so I couldn't get either for the drivers) or something like that. I figured there might be a way to install #! over 9.10's alpha, but guess not. It's cool. I was excited for the possibility of a new learning project. I've only been running linux since mid May. Turns out #! is the perfect tool to really learn Linux (because not everything, especially config options, is point and click).

I'll just stick to what I've got for now, I guess. I'll try compiling my first kernel in the mean time. I had trouble the first time because I had NO idea what even a tenth of the configuration options were the first time, so the only save I found for using #! was the unofficial 9.04 version.

Is Corenominal the only guy working on this stuff?

If you've never done a minimal install before, this guide may help:

http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal

*If Im wrong you can still just install Karmic and then install Openbox afterwards.

You can install #! over a minimal (or full, though it's not officially recommended) Ubuntu install by using the correct version of the script:

8.04: http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/dow … ion_method
8.10: http://www.crunchbanglinux.org/wiki/dow … on_methods
9.04 Testing: http://crunchbanglinux.org/forums/topic … hbang-904/