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Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (pvsage) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:29:08 +0000

Iranon wrote:

(Debian isn't going to provide proprietary drivers and firmware).

I thought Debian actually provided optional install images that included the non-free whatnots. Is this not, or no longer, the case? (I remember shortly after Debian announced that the Squeeze kernel would not include any proprietary blobs, I got the impression that they might eventually move the non-free packages into a separate repo, kinda like medibuntu...)

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (johnraff) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:37:52 +0000

Iranon wrote:

a script to crunchify a fresh Debian install seems a cleaner way to do it.

You could have a look here.

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (Iranon) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:31:07 +0000

In a way I'd prefer if projects like Crunchbang didn't exist as their own distro, a script to crunchify a fresh Debian install seems a cleaner way to do it.
The only problem I see is for people who need wireless connectivity out of the box (Debian isn't going to provide proprietary drivers and firmware).

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (fratermus) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:29:27 +0000

ad wrote:

CrunchBang is now my first choice because it offers me the same superb quality of Debian... but everything works out of the box from the beginning.

This.

It has excellent defaults and functionality. I usually change a few things but it's as close to perfect for me as I've ever used.

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (ad) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:18:17 +0000

From my experience. I am not an expert on Linux, I am not a power user. I don't need to use the latest software, I don't have the most expensive laptop. What I looking for is a stable and reliable operative system, easy to keep up to date, and easy to install and configure.

I love Debian, it has been my distro for several years, but I always had to fix issues related with my wireless card and also my graphics settings. CrunchBang is now my first choice because it offers me the same superb quality of Debian... but everything works out of the box from the beginning.

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (johnraff) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 03:30:10 +0000

So the basic difference from "pure" Debian is the extra CrunchBang repositories which hold the recompiled and tweaked packages that pvsage mentioned.

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (pvsage) — Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:13:43 +0000

Philip does recompile the Murrine gtk theme and some libraries, mostly for cosmetics; he also tweaked font rendering (in Waldorf anyway) so it looks closer to Ubuntu than Debian, but other than that and a few custom configs, it's almost-pure Debian. To me, these differences are like the juniper berry flavor in gin.

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (VastOne) — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:45:01 +0000

walterbyrd wrote:

Is Crunchbang just Debian, with openbox, and some apps pre-installed?

Yes, that is what #! is.. the pre-installed apps and of course the community is what make it what it is..

The installer sets it a part IMO as well.

Re: Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (dura) — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:49:41 +0000

No. It's a lot, lot more (intangibly...).

Is Crunchbang better than Debian + Openbox?

dummy@example.com (walterbyrd) — Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:40:24 +0000

Is Crunchbang just Debian, with openbox, and some apps pre-installed?