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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12270#p12270</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to compare which has newer packages, thanks.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (anonymous)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12248#p12248</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>anonymous wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>So is Debian testing/unstable similar to Arch Linux, or does Arch still have newer packages?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Arch is ahead of Debian Sid (unstable) right now, because Sid was &quot;frozen&quot; while they were prepping Lenny for stable release. Now that Lenny is out, Sid is updating rapidly on a daily basis. There is also Debian &quot;experimental,&quot; which is even newer than Sid, but most people don&#039;t actually use that as a full distro. Rather, you would use the experimental repo for a specific package (let&#039;s say you needed the latest version of something, but it hasn&#039;t made it to Sid yet, you can pull it in from experimental at your own risk). </p><p>As to whether or not Arch and Debian are &quot;similar&quot; in the big picture--there are a lot of differences, the biggest being that Debian uses apt-get (or aptitude) and Arch uses pacman. Debian would be much more familiar than Arch to the average Crunchbang user.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (snowpine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12246#p12246</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So is Debian testing/unstable similar to Arch Linux, or does Arch still have newer packages?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (anonymous)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12222#p12222</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>qmemo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>flicck, just wanted to ask what do you really GET with debian that you do not GET with ubuntu?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Hi Gmemo, I won&#039;t claim to answer for flicck <img src="http://crunchbang.org/forums/plugins/ezbbc/style/smilies/smile.png" alt="smile" /> but here are my thoughts: The coolest thing about Debian testing and unstable is that they are &quot;rolling release.&quot; You keep your system constantly up to date, rather than a big dist-upgrade every 6 months like with Ubuntu. Frankly the 6 month cycle is getting annoying; here we are awaiting #! 8.10.3 when Jaunty comes out in 2 months...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>qmemo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Doing a minimal Debian netinstall is so simple, I don&#039;t see why anyone would bother with sidux.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Flicck, I agree that Debian netinstall is awesome, and I have done it a couple of times. To answer your question, there are a few differences between sid and sidux, but the biggest is, sidux has its own kernels. For example, Debian sid was frozen at 2.6.27 for quite some time, while sidux users were enjoying 2.6.28-sidux. I haven&#039;t used sidux long enough to really have a strong opinion, but I&#039;ve heard claims that sidux is more stable than sid. It is also more of a &quot;stand alone distro&quot; with a live CD and easy installers for hard drive or usb.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (snowpine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12222#p12222</guid>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12186#p12186</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>flicck, just wanted to ask what do you really GET with debian that you do not GET with ubuntu?</p><p>You can choose not answer that actually</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (qmemo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=12180#p12180</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Doing a minimal Debian netinstall is so simple, I don&#039;t see why anyone would bother with sidux. I just looked over the crunchbang applications list in an elinks vterm and aptitude installed what I wanted, ignored the rest. Installing the nvidia driver the Debian way was easy, too. Not as easy as using jockey or envyng, but all of about five minutes and a few well-documented command line bits. For anyone really interested in building a system from nothing, I can&#039;t recommend Debian netinst enough.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (flicck)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=11716#p11716</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I just think it is... inelegant... to install something with the intention of immediately uninstalling it; therefore I typically start with a minimal install whenever possible. <img src="http://crunchbang.org/forums/plugins/ezbbc/style/smilies/smile.png" alt="smile" /></p><p>But what I actually meant is that, it would be a stumbling block for Corenomial if he ever theoretically decided to port #! to sidux, since #! is built from a minimal Ubuntu install and there is no comparable sidux minimal install.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (snowpine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=11712#p11712</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>why is it a stumbling block? Can&#039;t you just install openbox, then uninstall xfce?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (wmdiem)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=11707#p11707</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Another great thing about sidux is that it&#039;s rolling release... you never have to worry about upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 like you do with Ubuntu. In fact, every upgrade in sidux is a dist-upgrade (apt-get upgrade is not supported). I realized I forgot to put the link for sidux lxde in my previous post (it is not an official part of the sidux project): <a href="http://www.cap.gediam.de/index-en.htm">http://www.cap.gediam.de/index-en.htm</a> Basically the only reason I used lxde sid (as opposed to the official release) was to get sidux without Xfce or KDE (sidux does not have a minimal install option, which might be a stumbling block to building crunch-sid-bang-ux).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (snowpine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=11706#p11706</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>+1 on the sidux idea. I&#039;ve been using it and I&#039;m really impressed. <br />I think starting from sidux, running the smxi script to get the non-free stuff, then installing openbox, conkey, lxpanel, etc, copying your #! config files over, and adding any other highend aps you need (e.g., claws, gimp, etc) from the sidux/sid repos would probably give a pretty close experience. <br />You could even make a script to do it in case someone else want to imitate it.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (wmdiem)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=10476#p10476</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>yup, I know... but I&#039;m still thinking of porting... I&#039;ll learn something new, and I can make a leaner kernel made for my use... though it&#039;s a big step to try, I&#039;ll think I&#039;ll see what I can do...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Sjur)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=10459#p10459</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Sjur wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>the big problem is the array-kernel which I probably have to compile myself for debian. And that means I have to learn something:/</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Completely unnecessary to port the array.org kernel to Debian, as Lenny has excellent support for the eee out-of-the-box: <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install">http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install</a></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (snowpine)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=10456#p10456</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>omns wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>You&#039;ll find it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/crunchbang.list</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Oops! <img src="http://crunchbang.org/forums/plugins/ezbbc/style/smilies/smile.png" alt="smile" /><br />Thanks, I feel like a fool.</p><p>regards,<br />Guillermo.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ggarron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=10454#p10454</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;ll find it in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/crunchbang.list</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (rizzo)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: crunchdebian?]]></title>
			<link>http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=10448#p10448</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>snowpine wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Hi ggaron,<br />Here&#039;s the relevant section from my sources.list:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>## CrunchBang Linux 8.10.xx
## Compatible with Ubuntu 8.10 &quot;Intrepid Ibex&quot;
deb http://crunchbang.net/packages-8.10.xx 8.10.xx main</code></pre></div></div></blockquote></div><p>This is weird, I have just arrived to my job, where I use CB, and listed my sources.list, and there is no crunchbang line in there, not even in the commented section, should I manually add it?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (ggarron)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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